where exactly does it suggest those proposals would be equally expensive? that's something YOU claim in order to deflect from the shittiness of the republican proposal and call it a disingenuous comparison.
no, it is entirely valid to point out the priorities and initial impulses of both parties - especially when right wing propaganda has been trying to spin the outrageously bad shit as 'politicians in general being corrupt and tone deaf' in order to ignore which party has been significantly worse on this.

you're such a hack...

Your list painted the Democratic proposals as better because, roughly speaking, people get more $$$ from them. Omitting the price tag, which we and our children will have to pay for in the future btw, is of course manipulation. To assess such proposals in a meaningful way, we need to account not only for the gains they promise, but also for the burden they impose on future taxpayers.

nope, it juxtaposes WHAT both parties want to spend money on and WHO they want to protect.

if you read the text more carefully (or objectively), you would have noticed that the dem's proposal doesn't just have the same items, merely suggesting to spend more on them, but also includes proposals that won't 'just hurt twice as much down the road' (what a disgusting and dishonest way of trying to reframe helping people in desperate need and slowing down wealth redisitribution from the bottom to the top during a pandemic), but also includes repealing new massive giveaways to millionaires and billionaires and NOT making corporations endangering the lives of their employees immune to legal action, you desperate hack.

again, all you're trying to do here is play the old 'but how are they ever going to pay for it' card in order to deflect from the disgusting level of corruption and self-dealing that is the republican proposal (and perfectly describes their first corona relief measure as well).

This is a conservative meme, see the deficit due to tax cuts for the wealthy and big military spending, or just try to be intellectually honest at some point.

Bernie is a propaganda machine. Those gains he keeps referring to are unrealized gains, not realized. Elon, the Walton family, Jeff, Tim, Bill, etc. didnt just liquidate their holdings of these companies all of a sudden it would casus a massive sell off.

I don't disagree with higher tax rates, I believe in a graduated rate system. Here in Canada they would face 51% taxes in Nova Scotia on anything over about 140k.

I also believe in higher probate fees and estate taxes on death of a tax payer.

You can't start taxing unrealized gains though which is all Berni is going off on.

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I would agree that Bernie really tends to promote populist ideas that don't tend to be completely honest. Hard to be a leftist in this current American era because you don't want to be neolib and you don't want to be associated with Bernie. I also wish Bernie never described himself as a "democratic socialist." I think all he effectively did was made taxing the rich more effectively seem like a "radical" idea. Just a net-negative existence of a politician.

Barnie knows this, but he knows that the masses of people who hate those who work for a living do not. he can just say 'look their wealth went up while i am blaming them for Congress not acting (which he is a part of lmfao). according to Barnie's rhetoric most people that post in the jsp investing/market topic are part of this wealthy class since we have unrealized market gains since March/April timeframe