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Jul 26 2020 10:53am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 26 2020 12:39pm)
Disagree here too lol

Biden is the exact kind of candidate that appeals to those people. Look at all of the "Biden is a racist because of the superpredator legislation" comments. He's not some bastion of liberalism. He's a middle of the road Democrat with a long history of doing things that Republicans love.


Less than 23% of his own typical voters find him particularly inspiring. He doesn't really have a "base" so to speak.
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Less than 23% of his own typical voters find him particularly inspiring. He doesn't really have a "base" so to speak.

somehow Biden getting people locked up for 25-to-life for petty crimes by writing horrific legislation makes him a moderate lmfao. it just makes him a scumbag racist
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somehow Biden getting people locked up for 25-to-life for petty crimes by writing horrific legislation makes him a moderate lmfao. it just makes him a scumbag racist


That's what it takes to appeal to the bulk of the Republican party
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 26 2020 09:39am)
Disagree here too lol

Biden is the exact kind of candidate that appeals to those people. Look at all of the "Biden is a racist because of the superpredator legislation" comments. He's not some bastion of liberalism. He's a middle of the road Democrat with a long history of doing things that Republicans love.


We'll see come November. There's absolutely no way I believe he'll pull near what Obama got in Texas.
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We'll see come November. There's absolutely no way I believe he'll pull near what Obama got in Texas.


Obama only got 43% and 41% of Texas. That's not really a high bar.
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Jul 26 2020 01:39pm
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We'll see come November. There's absolutely no way I believe he'll pull near what Obama got in Texas.


8-12 years is a LONG time. Colorado and Virginia were considered swing states back then and now they are deep blue.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 26 Jul 2020 14:37)
That's what it takes to appeal to the bulk of the Republican party

bulk no, maybe racist RINOs like Mccain’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conways deadbeat husband, Romney, Kaisch, Rick “confederate flag lover” Wilson and other election-denying anti-America losers
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 26 Jul 2020 18:39)
Disagree here too lol

Biden is the exact kind of candidate that appeals to those people. Look at all of the "Biden is a racist because of the superpredator legislation" comments. He's not some bastion of liberalism. He's a middle of the road Democrat with a long history of doing things that Republicans love.


He has a long history of adjusting to the zeitgeist. When the ideology and policies of a party shift, some politicians shift with them, others stick to their principles and beliefs. Biden has none of those, he has always been very flexible and most concerned with staying in the middle of the Democratic party. Since the Democrats have massively shifted to the left on a lot of issues over the past 4-10 years, in many cases to the point where sizable shares of the party and its base support batshit insane policies, Biden's lack of convictions is a concern - it suggests that he will generally go along with whatever the left wants, since that's where the energy in the party is at the moment.

By the way: the fact that policies which present-day Republicans like is what the Democratic party pushed for just 20 years ago is strong proof that they have indeed moved to the left.
See also this nice article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-democrats-have-shifted-left-over-the-last-30-years/



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8-12 years is a LONG time. Colorado and Virginia were considered swing states back then and now they are deep blue.


Virginia is not deep blue. Races for the state house or the governorship are still competitive.
In general, Virginia and Colorado are two idiosyncratic cases. Colorado was a small state (population-wise) dominated by one large metro which has grown tremendously over the past 12 years, with the growth almost exclusively coming from Democratic-leaning constituencies, namely professionals/hipsters/hispanics.



Northern Virginia is booming thanks to the growth of the capitol metro, it's chock-full with consultants, lawyers and staffers. It is also chock-full with high-income government employees. These people naturally lean toward the party of big government, i.e. the Democrats. Basically, the D+43 partisan lean of DC has increasingly spilled over into its Northern Virginia suburbs. Obama ballooning the federal bureaucracy has really exacerbated this trend.

The rest of Virginia, outside of the DC suburbs in its northern tip, has largely remained static in terms of partisan lean (but with increased polarization between rural and urban areas).

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 26 2020 04:41pm
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moving to vote for the same policies they moved from?



Hell if I know.

Moving to take advantage of cheap real estate, gas, taxes, space, etc.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 26 2020 03:39pm)

Virginia is not deep blue. Races for the state house or the governorship are still competitive.
In general, Virginia and Colorado are two idiosyncratic cases. Colorado was a small state (population-wise) dominated by one large metro which has grown tremendously over the past 12 years, with the growth almost exclusively coming from Democratic-leaning constituencies, namely professionals/hipsters/hispanics.

Northern Virginia is booming thanks to the growth of the capitol metro, it's chock-full with consultants, lawyers and staffers. It is also chock-full with high-income government employees. These people naturally lean toward the party of big government, i.e. the Democrats. Basically, the D+43 partisan lean of DC has increasingly spilled over into its Northern Virginia suburbs. Obama ballooning the federal bureaucracy has really exacerbated this trend.

The rest of Virginia, outside of the DC suburbs in its northern tip, has largely remained static in terms of partisan lean (but with increased polarization between rural and urban areas).


I was referring to presidential elections. Virginia and Colorado are completely lost causes now and the GOP would be foolish to campaign there.

Right, but that's the case for a lot of blue states. Outside of NYC, New York is pretty red.
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