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Jul 8 2020 03:30am
Yes but do I make money off this?
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Jul 8 2020 05:24am
I'm still not totally clear what cancel culture is.

It really seems like a function of commodity fetishism in advanced capitalism.

JK Rowling for example. I'm not sure how she can be judged liberal, she wrote books about elitist white families having secret schools and special powers, with literally no representation in her stories.

She is a shitty writer and it is crazy to me an entite (lame) generation thinks hufflepuff is a personality trait.

I'm sympathetic to the TERF argument that being a woman is just another thing men can take from females in terms of creating safe spaces.

Problem is trans women face the same problems just magnified in scope as other women and need to use those spaces legitimately.

Some might tell me how cancel culture is different than other classic boycotting and diversion tactics. I'm ignorant here.

JK Rowling fot example isn't in trouble for saying transwomen aren't women, she is advocating for them to be harmed by being excluded by spaces for them that they need. It isn't a different of opinion when one party seeks to harm another.
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Jul 8 2020 05:47am
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 8 2020 03:14am)
It's sick how easily ordinary people voicing their opinion are getting cancelled by far left radicals. It's the radicals that should be cancelled. And locked up for a good long time.

They should start with a bunch of purple haired looters and arsonists and don't forget the far lefties who organized it all and sat at home gleefully watching the carnage on TV.


Give an example of this happening please. If it is so rampant there ought to be a list of victims and accusers ready as talking point. This isn't new. In have yet to see an argument against it that realistically depicts the situation, the problem, and the offenders.

The biggest event in cancel culture has been #metoo and that has nailed Weinstein, Cosby, Epstein, etc. Why is this bad and why are these men worth defending?

Where is all this excess at? Who is innocent and suffered the same fate as weinstein, cosby, epstein for example.

I'll look back at the thread, but people against this phenomenon are just so emotional about it that i just have not heard any rational thoughts around it.

I get cancelled here all the time via people reporting me for hurt feelings. These aren't leftie snowflakes doing this. These are people cancelling me because they don't like my opinions then those same people are complaining about cancel cultute. They don't want a debate, they miss their social domination when people who aren't like them didn't have a voice. Or they wouldn't be cancelling.


Quote (Tyrantus @ Jul 8 2020 02:21am)
Are you seriously calling people snitches? I have seen you, more than once, boast about reporting someone in this very subsection.


Lol he doesn't report tho.

The OGs here don't report each other.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 8 2020 05:53am
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Jul 8 2020 06:21am
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The biggest event in cancel culture has been #metoo and that has nailed Weinstein, Cosby, Epstein, etc. Why is this bad and why are these men worth defending?
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These men got nailed because credible, court-proof evidence was found to convict them of their crimes. Which is a fundamentally different standard than "coming up with a sufficiently big outraged mob".
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Jul 8 2020 06:49am
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Give an example of this happening please. If it is so rampant there ought to be a list of victims and accusers ready as talking point. This isn't new. In have yet to see an argument against it that realistically depicts the situation, the problem, and the offenders.

The biggest event in cancel culture has been #metoo and that has nailed Weinstein, Cosby, Epstein, etc. Why is this bad and why are these men worth defending?

Where is all this excess at? Who is innocent and suffered the same fate as weinstein, cosby, epstein for example.

I'll look back at the thread, but people against this phenomenon are just so emotional about it that i just have not heard any rational thoughts around it.

I get cancelled here all the time via people reporting me for hurt feelings. These aren't leftie snowflakes doing this. These are people cancelling me because they don't like my opinions then those same people are complaining about cancel cultute. They don't want a debate, they miss their social domination when people who aren't like them didn't have a voice. Or they wouldn't be cancelling.


Produce a list from the top of my head eh

Well I remember a week or so ago the attempt to cancel Angry Joe.

Then there was that Cincinnati soccer coach that sang a word or two from a song or whatever and was sacked because BLM far left protesters showed up at the club.

I mean comon man I've seen so much of this shit happening, if I start making a list I could prolly fill an entire page.


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Jul 8 2020 06:55am
cancel "culture", as portrayed by the right, doesn't exist. they sure TRIED to make it a thing (by both constantly crying that the left engages in it, while simultaneously trying to cancel what their snowflake egos couldn't handle), but it does not have the significance that some people pretend it has. i understand (and agree) with the concerns around it, when it comes to free speech, opposing political and philosophical views, and threatens to limit the scope of public discourse it's absolutely worth addressing - but like so many things these days, it's blown out of proportion, and only ever mentioned by the right in order to protect and defend some of the most shitty things imaginable.





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Imagine if I got a bunch of cucks to show HR how badly you fucking roasted Ghot. Do you think you'd deserve the inevitable firing?


loaded question. "inevitable firing" for that is a ridiculous assumption.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 8 Jul 2020 07:52)
On an abstract level, this is the same debate as the one about "should society tolerate or ostracize intolerance?"
I think we all know where your political camp stands on that one...


but what is YOUR excuse?
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Jul 8 2020 06:59am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 8 2020 08:21am)
These men got nailed because credible, court-proof evidence was found to convict them of their crimes. Which is a fundamentally different standard than "coming up with a sufficiently big outraged mob".


You can't just the movement by the negatives. If you pick and choose like this you just aren't being critical.

Those women came forward because of the conditions finally being ripe for them to come forward.

These are the movements successes.

I criticize science along the same lines. People judge science based on physics as it stands and ignores phrenology, physiognomy, and all the other failed sciences. I've been called anti-science here a lot for not taking a chinese buffet approach of picking and choosing.

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Jul 8 2020 07:10am
Quote (fender @ 8 Jul 2020 14:55)
but what is YOUR excuse?


I just want "cancel culture" to end. I dont want its proponents shamed or snitched on to their employers, I dont want to go on a crusade against them, I dont want activists digging through their years-old social media posts trying to find spooky pro-cancel-culture posts , etc.

Cancel culture stands for the notion that all wrongthink must be banished, and social pressure shall be used to turn everyone engaging in wrongthink into a pariah. Rejecting such a toxic and totalitarian approach does neither mean that I reject the cancellation of any opinion, no matter how horrible, nor that I want to retribute with the same degree of zealotry and totalitarianism.

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Jul 8 2020 07:13am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 7 2020 10:46pm)
Funny thing is I didn't really hear about anybody on the right complaining when people were fired for being gay, or trans, or atheist, or whatever. It only seems to have become a problem when their shitty behavior started having consequences.

Yeah, always gonna be a few people caught in the crossfire, but on the whole I don't see cancel culture as a large departure from the norm in America.


Those bans were justified and improved society. The only thing the left does is destroy things that right wingers make: like justice, health, and prosperity.
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Jul 8 2020 07:18am
Quote (Handcuffs @ 8 Jul 2020 02:25)
Ha ha ha.

Pro tip: You can check if a post has been reported or not by clicking "report post". If it has been reported, you'll find that there's no option for you to report it yourself.

Might want to check excellence's posts when he says he reported something. ;)

great post my friend! another rando bamboozled by the score of 1-0!
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