d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > White Liberal Saviorism
Prev14567Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 61,688
Joined: Mar 14 2006
Gold: 28.77
Jul 7 2020 09:59pm
I just came here to say that i think Catholic hospitals should be forced to provide abortions. God said Render Unto Caesar so render you motherfuckers.
Member
Posts: 16,274
Joined: Dec 27 2019
Gold: 69.69
Jul 8 2020 03:39am
Then after all these white liberal savourisms and apologists we will have a new wave of harden the F up culture. Would love to see more of that brought back
Member
Posts: 18,212
Joined: Jul 15 2014
Gold: 107.77
Jul 8 2020 04:34am
Quote (addone @ Jul 8 2020 05:39am)
Then after all these white liberal savourisms and apologists we will have a new wave of harden the F up culture. Would love to see more of that brought back


Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Jul 8 2020 10:36am
Quote (addone @ Jul 8 2020 04:39am)
Then after all these white liberal savourisms and apologists we will have a new wave of harden the F up culture. Would love to see more of that brought back


I would too. After seeing right wingers piss their pants over having to wear a mask I think this would be good.
Member
Posts: 57,901
Joined: Dec 3 2008
Gold: 286.00
Jul 8 2020 01:29pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 8 2020 12:36pm)
I would too. After seeing right wingers piss their pants over having to wear a mask I think this would be good.


No shit. They need to toughen up a bit.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 8 2020 01:30pm
Member
Posts: 58,281
Joined: Jul 10 2006
Gold: 2,900.49
Jul 8 2020 03:27pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 8 2020 12:29pm)
No shit. They need to toughen up a bit.


Probably piling on to anti-right wing sentiment at this point but I have felt, for a long time now, that folks on the right have something of a persecution complex I never quite understood. Talking to them they always seem to think that "they" are out to "get them" or somehow dismantle their way of life. "They" shifts, it can be whatever, "the media", communists, atheists, "war on Christmas", etc. It's almost like they are so flimsy in their beliefs that any form of push rattles them to their core. This is very visible by looking at the 2016 NFL controversy. The Right was so afraid of any form of dissent that they wanted to remove it from their lives entirely by boycotting the NFL. They are not interested in discourse, entertaining the other side even a little bit.

This statement above is full of generalizations, yes, but it seems consistent in some ways considering that by definition conservatism is not interested in changing and therefore has no inherent desire in entertaining a notion for change.
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Jul 8 2020 03:45pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Jul 8 2020 04:27pm)
Probably piling on to anti-right wing sentiment at this point but I have felt, for a long time now, that folks on the right have something of a persecution complex I never quite understood. Talking to them they always seem to think that "they" are out to "get them" or somehow dismantle their way of life. "They" shifts, it can be whatever, "the media", communists, atheists, "war on Christmas", etc. It's almost like they are so flimsy in their beliefs that any form of push rattles them to their core. This is very visible by looking at the 2016 NFL controversy. The Right was so afraid of any form of dissent that they wanted to remove it from their lives entirely by boycotting the NFL. They are not interested in discourse, entertaining the other side even a little bit.

This statement above is full of generalizations, yes, but it seems consistent in some ways considering that by definition conservatism is not interested in changing and therefore has no inherent desire in entertaining a notion for change.




I really like this channel. At some point he talks about the mindset of an anti-semite, quoting Sartre I think, where he basically says the jew warps to whatever persecution the person needs them to fit. If he does bad on a test, the jews morph into something that made him do bad on the test. I see right-wing thought as a more mild version of this, where they morph several groups into whatever is needed to explain whatever bad thing is happening. If the economy goes bad, immigrants become capable of dismantling economies instead of being penniless laborers, if our culture changes in a way they don't like liberals morph into either soyboys if it's becoming weak, or violent antifa members if it's too violent.
Member
Posts: 58,281
Joined: Jul 10 2006
Gold: 2,900.49
Jul 8 2020 03:53pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 8 2020 02:45pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAFbpWVO-ow

I really like this channel. At some point he talks about the mindset of an anti-semite, quoting Sartre I think, where he basically says the jew warps to whatever persecution the person needs them to fit. If he does bad on a test, the jews morph into something that made him do bad on the test. I see right-wing thought as a more mild version of this, where they morph several groups into whatever is needed to explain whatever bad thing is happening. If the economy goes bad, immigrants become capable of dismantling economies instead of being penniless laborers, if our culture changes in a way they don't like liberals morph into either soyboys if it's becoming weak, or violent antifa members if it's too violent.


That's a very valid observation regarding Jews. It brings to mind when I read Eyes Wide Open, written by the movie's screenwriter, about how him and Kubrick wove the theme of Jewish persecution into the film and how relevant it was for both of them throughout their lives.

I would say that your argument follows when you consider a conservative, like I've said in other posts, are not interested in changing themselves/their culture/etc. and therefore must find a flaw in things external to themselves, which they have no shortage in finding as we've seen throughout the years. The more importance you place in your heritage, culture and such the more difficult it becomes to acknowledge shortfalls in them and to change them or at least to put them into context and be consciousness of contemporary needs and realities.
Member
Posts: 33,928
Joined: Oct 9 2008
Gold: 2,528.52
Jul 8 2020 03:58pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 7 2020 11:59pm)
I just came here to say that i think Catholic hospitals should be forced to provide abortions. God said Render Unto Caesar so render you motherfuckers.



No thanks satan
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Jul 8 2020 03:58pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Jul 8 2020 04:53pm)
That's a very valid observation regarding Jews. It brings to mind when I read Eyes Wide Open, written by the movie's screenwriter, about how him and Kubrick wove the theme of Jewish persecution into the film and how relevant it was for both of them throughout their lives.

I would say that your argument follows when you consider a conservative, like I've said in other posts, are not interested in changing themselves/their culture/etc. and therefore must find a flaw in things external to themselves, which they have no shortage in finding as we've seen throughout the years. The more importance you place in your heritage, culture and such the more difficult it becomes to acknowledge shortfalls in them and to change them or at least to put them into context and be consciousness of contemporary needs and realities.


I really like how it manifests into "schrodinger's immigrant", they are so lazy and yet they are taking all the hard jobs nobody wants. They are peaceful salt of the earth working class when you talk about how they are catholic, but evil rapists when Trump needs to rally the base on how we need to build a wall.

It happens pretty much everywhere. The good parts are molded into the culture, like how MLK has been whitewashed to hell, and the bad parts are used as rallying points.

I ultimately see conservatism in the modern U.S. as a group of people fundamentally unable to adapt. They have found themselves in an interconnected world that values critical thought and flexibility and find themselves unable to keep up, and with that inability they are unable to affect change. In the before-time they were effective because small communities could rally people to political causes and join together to stop change. However, now that we are interconnected the isolated communities no longer have sway over their members. It's far easier to sway people to action over the internet than it is to talk to your neighbors.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev14567Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll