do you have any fucking idea what poverty is?

I'd like to hear about what poverty is like from someone who's purchased stars on an online gaming forum

Please enlighten us

well 'not doing drugs', there is the argument that there are a lot of non impoverished people that do drugs, so feels like a post hoc ergo propter hoc argument in that sense to me.

As well some people live in a culture of drugs and they grow up around seeing people survive while on drugs. Not to mention the powerful effects of drugs.. Its not so simple to just 'not do drugs' as human elements such as pride, jealousy, empathy, fomo, among other things as is always shown makes it not that simple. Not akin to say telling someone who is depsressed to stop being depressed, definitely you have a point when you say well just dont do drugs for sure, in which I would say well many successful and non impoverished people do drugs. When i was young and impoverished my parents did drugs, I smoke weed now, and I can afford little stars beside my name you know so.

Being impoverished also has a large affect on schooling, from simple things to not having pencils everyday of which will if repeated over and over subconciously change the valuation of education in the persons mind as they continue to live and grow and survive without the pencil and therefore find alternate ways to achieve goals which acts as an alternate to acquiring capitol to accomplish tasks.
Then we can get into more obvious evidence like if you accept the notion that paying more for school, and going to more prestigious schools, means that you are on average going to be better educated and havea higher paying job. That is a fact proven every damn 6 months when some government posts a study about it. This is basically common knowledge...

More privileged, and I don't meant to use the term priviliged in the racial regard, people are able to better focus on studies, with more money that allows one more time to commit that required energy and focus to get the better education/learn those advantages required to make more money and not be defined as impoverished. Like myself I had to have a job since I was 13. 20 hours a week since I was 13 has been devoted to work at least (now over 40 obviously) so if I had those 20 extra hours a week for studying or extra curriculars that could potentially assist in my career, like a more privileged individual would, then possibly I or anyone in the situation could have had a more progressive educational experience throughout puberty and into adulthood..


All this is very obvious stuff that anyone with common sense can figure out btw

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If a person has a sound mind and body and lives in a 1st world country and doesn't have a child, then they are not in poverty. The material wealth of even part time minimum wage workers is outstanding. Greater than royalty of the past. I have only witnessed poverty from mentally ill people living on the streets. I have never live in a 2nd or 3rd world country so I cannot speak to that.

I am probably the poorest person in this conversation. My net income is $1000 a month. I have health insurance, a car, car insurance, tow insurance, phone and data, internet, a full tummy, all the clothes i could want, time to be with friends and loved ones and pursue hobbies, money to have a good time. I have a %50 savings rate with $15k in savings since i budget $500 a month including rent. No debt since i didnt go to college and i paid for my car in cash. no credit cards because i dont beleive in them. I am set to be financially independent in 15 years if my lives continues linearly from here. I do not consider myself in poverty what so ever and in fact consider my life to be decadent and luxurious.

What most people mean by "poverty" is having less compared to others. But I consider poverty as not having my needs met. 1st world folk don't know their needs because they grow up in excess so they have no grounding to work from.

This post was edited by Grippster on Jul 1 2020 12:33am

Rich dad, poor dad.

Its easy to avoid drugs if they have fathers. Single moms raise children that make excuses just like them. No Welfare/alimony/divorce is the only solution here.

The Democrats do this on purpose to create a permanent class of people they can brainwash into voting for them. Welfare is eugenics at its base

Rich people and middle class people do drugs. Drugs aren't why people are in poverty.

Most people in poverty are born there and socialized to be there for the benefit of others. Particularly as cheap labor to keep wages low across the board.

You're right about welfare being part of that. Associating the cost of actual childcare between parents with state assistance is a projection of MRA bs. Only in men's rights circles are children cheap.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 1 2020 07:29am

garbage fiction

The “escaping poverty” narrative is a red herring.

For an individual, it is indeed possible (if difficult) to move out of poverty. The issue is that when this person leaves their underpaid job behind, this underpaid job is then taken by a different person who will be in poverty. There are not enough well paid jobs and entrepreneurship opportunities for everyone, so the problem of poverty is always remain.

The current market in most Western countries leads to an equilibrium that will always maintain itself: a certain percentage of people are rich, a certain percentage are middle class, and a certain percentage are poor. Talking about whether por not an individual can escape poverty is nothing but a distraction from this issue.

This post was edited by Leevee on Jul 1 2020 08:27am