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#51
Nov 18 2019 06:45am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 16 2019 01:45pm)
Many brothers think that Freemasonry is only an innocuous philosophical association tending to "liberate" Humanity. Christian for the American branch. This is not the case.
If you are low ranked they are just using you.



If you are not a mason I’d have to say you probably don’t know what you’re saying when you say that.

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Yes but im sure with freemasonry the secrets get darker and darker and darker.,. Ive got a buddy who went to 32degrees supposedly and just dropped out of it and said its a bunch power hungry evil people.

first ritual they do with u is basically put a noose around your head and let you know they'll kill you if you tell their little sacred secrets..... So say this is a scenario for you Masons take care of each other and networking. Say a judge is a mason, and person you are suing is a mason how well do you think that is going to go for you?

or here is another instance You put in an application say you are a welder and you have to take weld tests to apply for said position and the other people applying do as well. And your welds look way better yet the other guy gets hired simply because he was a mason. tell me that's not corruption



32 degrees in the scottish rite, the york rite does not have as many degrees but once you’ve gone past a point you realize that the masons are a lot about spirituality and there are lots of things a lot of people don’t know... and yes we look out for each other, and if it’s corruption to be a part of the oldest fraternal group on earth then I guess you can consider it that. Just like any other position on earth it almost never matters what you know nearly as much as who you know. That’s just life and if you don’t adhere to that principal in life at some point you will not progress very far.

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Nov 18 2019 08:34am
Quote (GSXR @ Nov 16 2019 01:50pm)
Yes but im sure with freemasonry the secrets get darker and darker and darker.,. Ive got a buddy who went to 32degrees supposedly and just dropped out of it and said its a bunch power hungry evil people.

first ritual they do with u is basically put a noose around your head and let you know they'll kill you if you tell their little sacred secrets..... So say this is a scenario for you Masons take care of each other and networking. Say a judge is a mason, and person you are suing is a mason how well do you think that is going to go for you?

or here is another instance You put in an application say you are a welder and you have to take weld tests to apply for said position and the other people applying do as well. And your welds look way better yet the other guy gets hired simply because he was a mason. tell me that's not corruption


You think it's corruption to be a part of a group? ROFL.

Lemme ask you this. Let's say I'm a judge and the person getting sued is a member of my D&D group. Is D&D corruption? Or we both go to the same bar, or he shows up in a Raiders jersey and I'm a Raiders fan. Corruption?
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#53
Nov 18 2019 09:55am
Quote (Drakwen @ 18 Nov 2019 13:45)
If you are not a mason I’d have to say you probably don’t know what you’re saying when you say that.


I'm more likely politically opposed to it.
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Nov 18 2019 03:03pm
Quote (Testiclese @ Nov 18 2019 06:34am)
You think it's corruption to be a part of a group? ROFL.

Lemme ask you this. Let's say I'm a judge and the person getting sued is a member of my D&D group. Is D&D corruption? Or we both go to the same bar, or he shows up in a Raiders jersey and I'm a Raiders fan. Corruption?


I didn't say its corruption to be a part of a group. I think its corruption for a person to get a job just because they are part of a group that has nothing to do with that job. especially if it has to do with tax payer money.
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Nov 18 2019 03:06pm
Quote (GSXR @ Nov 18 2019 01:03pm)
I didn't say its corruption to be a part of a group. I think its corruption for a person to get a job just because they are part of a group that has nothing to do with that job. especially if it has to do with tax payer money.


So why are you bringing this up with respect to Masons? This circumstance isn't unique to being a Mason. This happens in any circle, with any situation.
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Nov 18 2019 03:36pm
Quote (GSXR @ Nov 18 2019 03:03pm)
I didn't say its corruption to be a part of a group. I think its corruption for a person to get a job just because they are part of a group that has nothing to do with that job. especially if it has to do with tax payer money.


this is either impossible to enforce or unfair to enforce.

let's say there's a guy in some club like the freemasons, and he gets a job where another free mason works. if you make a rule saying this can't happen you don't even have to prove they knew each other. this would be guilt by association. or you'd have to spend thousands or more to investigate their personal relationship, all for what? a lousy job?

the reality of the world is many people get jobs due to connections. its no one's business but their own, let alone the govt.
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Nov 18 2019 03:40pm
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this is either impossible to enforce or unfair to enforce.

let's say there's a guy in some club like the freemasons, and he gets a job where another free mason works. if you make a rule saying this can't happen you don't even have to prove they knew each other. this would be guilt by association. or you'd have to spend thousands or more to investigate their personal relationship, all for what? a lousy job?

the reality of the world is many people get jobs due to connections. its no one's business but their own, let alone the govt.


It is, if its tax payer money. im not saying all masons are bad but they sure have some horrible people in their association. All im saying is I do not believe they should be police officers, judges etc. To many of them get let go from felony type crimes or other crimes scotch free just because they are masons... not even because they have a relationship with a person but because they nationally recognize each other with their weird little hand shakes and hand signs and the way they wear clothes.... They can legitimately get away with murder etc aka organized crime.

Epstein didn't kill him self.
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#58
Nov 18 2019 04:16pm
As a freemason I regard the fraternity higher than most.
My grandfathers and fathers were all fm, I had heart problems as an infant and we depended on the patriarchy for care.
I was never pushed into it and I never perceived it different than my father's AA fellowship until after I turned myself in because I had burglarized a bro's residence.
The frat typically uses me to take widows for walks and paint churches with geriatric congregations, I use the frat to figure out who tf MLK differed responsibility of his dream to.
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Nov 18 2019 05:54pm
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So why are you bringing this up with respect to Masons? This circumstance isn't unique to being a Mason. This happens in any circle, with any situation.


with respect to masons?
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Nov 18 2019 05:56pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Nov 18 2019 02:16pm)
As a freemason I regard the fraternity higher than most.
My grandfathers and fathers were all fm, I had heart problems as an infant and we depended on the patriarchy for care.
I was never pushed into it and I never perceived it different than my father's AA fellowship until after I turned myself in because I had burglarized a bro's residence.
The frat typically uses me to take widows for walks and paint churches with geriatric congregations, I use the frat to figure out who tf MLK differed responsibility of his dream to.


explain plz.
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