https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1191824848978358274

We've approached complete head-in-the-sand territory. This is the chairman of the senate judiciary.

Example #9890430 why the Republican party has lost all legitimacy.

yet another case of lindsey graham competing for biggest hypocrite in history:

she sounds hot

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/04/776092575/congress-releases-first-transcripts-from-closed-door-trump-impeachment-depositio
Trump personally attacking ambassador who wouldn't help out his mates.

Oh, I totally agree with your take. Establishing quid pro quo is not that bad on its own. It's really common place in foreign policy. But when it's a quid pro quo that risks harming American foreign policy interests (withholding military aid to Ukraine strengthens Russia's position in the region) in order to achieve a corrupt, personal goal (finding proof for misconduct by his political rival Biden), that's pretty damning.

I dont think that the pro-Trump part of the public will feel lied to or end up supporting removal over this, but it definitely strengthens the Democrats' case.

As I said in the impeachment thread: I dont think the Dems themselves belive that they will get Trump removed from office with the Ukraine scandal - but they hope that he ends up battered and bruised and weakened going into election year. Establishing a quid pro quo which served a goal that can easily be interpreted as corrupt will accomplish that.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 5 2019 05:07pm

tl'dr The most pressing questions that the republicans had was talking about if Marie knew that her opening statements were leaked. No actual defense of the incriminating statements made.

Dems just asked them both to recount their stories. Which both had damning statements

This post was edited by IroningTheMaiden on Nov 6 2019 09:59am

its times like these that expose Graham's rare moments when he shows a backbone against trump are just lip service and an act to appear slightly out of step with Trump so he can retain credibility after 2024.

some people really hate Mitch, but i'd rather punch Lindsay in the face any day. plus if you threw a shot at Mitch his head would retract and you'd break your hand on his shell.

Ken Dilanian
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House intel cmt offl: We regret Bolton’s decision not to appear voluntarily, but we have no interest in allowing the Admin. to play rope-a-dope with us in the courts for months. The WH instruction that he not appear will add to the evidence of the Prez's obstruction of Congress.

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This confirms what the reporting has been, which is that Democrats don't want this to drag out. This could play out badly if it severely limits the number of witnesses who testify publicly. The case is already made on substance, we know what happened and how damning it is for the president. The American people need to see it in public testimony though.

while i applaud the democrats in not playing along i dont think this confirms the reporting. the democrats still want this to go into the 2020 cycle, but if the republicans use that narrative openly they have to counter it. whether Bolton testifies or not this is still going to drag out imo.