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Sep 11 2019 11:13am
9/11 is one thing that I try to avoid getting political about. The amount of butthurt in both camps is off the charts, and it's not because they care about the lives lost.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 11 2019 12:56pm)
Yeah even something like a heartbreak or social ostracization can do the trick.

mental illness is "fake news", it's all the muslims....

what an odd take.




Mental illness is NOT fake news. What IS weird is how those that are mentally ill are dealing with their mental illness.
Why has this rash of shootings just happened... fairly recently. Things like this didn't happen with the prevalence, that they are happening today. And there were just as many "troubled" folk, just as many guns... etc.



If I was a non tech country and wanted to overthrow a highly technical country... I would find people that were unhappy with their own country, or lot in life, and re-enforce those feelings.
Destabilization is much easier than a military confrontation, you know you will lose.

Somewhere along the line, a lot of folks in the US have gotten the notion that they don't "deserve" their lifestyle, their good fortune, etc. Then ofc, this leads to believing that defending your lifestyle, culture etc., is somehow wrong.
The US pretty much needs to stop listening to other countries that for w/e reason, seek to "direct" our beliefs and actions.

Being understanding and empathetic is fine... up to a point. When being that way starts to affect how we live, what we believe... it's time to take a step back and reconsider.




/e There has been a huge paradigm shift. It used to be us against them. Now, it's us against ourselves. Maybe we've been erroneously assuming that only super powers can engage in propaganda. What with the internet and all the new tech....anyone can become propaganda pushers.

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 11 2019 11:20am
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Mental illness is NOT fake news. What IS weird is how those that are mentally ill are dealing with their mental illness.
Why has this rash of shootings just happened... fairly recently. Things like this didn't happen with the prevalence, that they are happening today. And there were just as many "troubled" folk, just as many guns... etc.



If I was a non tech country and wanted to overthrow a highly technical country... I would find people that were unhappy with their own country, or lot in life, and re-enforce those feelings.
Destabilization is much easier than a military confrontation, you know you will lose.

Somewhere along the line, a lot of folks in the US have gotten the notion that they don't "deserve" their lifestyle, their good fortune, etc. Then ofc, this leads to believing that defending your lifestyle, culture etc., is somehow wrong.
The US pretty much needs to stop listening to other countries that for w/e reason, seek to "direct" our beliefs and actions.

Being understanding and empathetic is fine... up to a point. When being that way starts to affect how we live, what we believe... it's time to take a step back and reconsider.




/e There has been a huge paradigm shift. It used to be us against them. Now, it's us against ourselves.


neither did social media nor coverage by the media of mass shootings where they glorify the shooter.
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Sep 11 2019 11:22am
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neither did social media nor coverage by the media of mass shootings where they glorify the shooter.




Yes. Agreed. But the newspapers did in the old days. Now though (see my edit), anyone can push propaganda.

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Quote (Leevee @ Sep 11 2019 10:13am)
9/11 is one thing that I try to avoid getting political about. The amount of butthurt in both camps is off the charts, and it's not because they care about the lives lost.


What's there to be upset about? There's nothing to debate. It's an accepted fact that steel fuel can't melt jet beams.
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The history books will say... Strongest country in the world, destroyed by kids with iPhones.

Used to be a country needed some serious black ops folks to propagandize another country. Doing it to their own people was easy though.

NOW however, propaganda is hella easy. The world is so interconnected, anyone can do it. This is one of the thing I meant when I said... people had to keep their eyes open... all the time.
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Sep 11 2019 11:38am
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9/11 is one thing that I try to avoid getting political about. The amount of butthurt in both camps is off the charts, and it's not because they care about the lives lost.



Both camps?
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Sep 11 2019 11:45am
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Both camps?




Very good. Someone has their eyes open. :)
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