This entire shitshow, from start to end. Did he have the opportunity to intervene and quash the idea that Trump colluded with Russia when Hillary's camp was pushing it?
One thing's for sure: Obama didn't try.

Absolutely not. I think we can all agree that the standard that we hold Trump to is significantly lower than any other politician. It's actually kind of amazing.

Comey and that other FBI guy (forgot his name) should be investigated. They basically attempted a soft coup. One of them even went on national television and nonchalantly admitted to it lol.

Why would he help a dude who attacked him relentlessly for years? Obama being quiet caused Trump years of stress.




I agree. Republican war criminals from the Bush admin need to go down.

Sure I mean if you consider Trump's many character flaws to be more important than lying us into wars, genocide, war crimes, and other civil liberty violations of the previous two presidents.

But for realsies, I think Obama was uniquely positioned as holding the respect and clout among his base and a greater American bipartisan authority that if he had told America to drop it, they would have.
Leaving office, democrats were rioting in the streets and breaking the windows of starbucks and burning trash cans. Hillary's camp was screeching about collusion and vote rigging, and Hillary herself wouldn't even come out to admit defeat on election night. Obama did intervene, but only to dickslap Hillary and tell her to sober up and get out there and give her speech, and to say that the vote totals weren't (directly) rigged. Yet he was all too happy to breathe life into the Russiaburger and danced around whether Trump colluded with Russia. And we can always wonder about how independent the investigations were and how much the FBI/DoJ was being weaponized, whether it was a conspiracy or just a troublesome priest or just self-interested bad actors. But the responsibility for the administration was a buck that stopped with Obama, and whether by spite, negligence or ignorance, he was ultimately responsible for setting this ball rolling.



well maybe because he had the unique opportunity to turn the other cheek and make good on all his years of flowery speeches about overcoming divisiveness by being the bigger man
he and Trump had been pissing on each other's boots for years and when Obama left office, he tussled in power struggles with the incoming administration over issues like sanctions and the israeli settlement vote, left behind a bunch of flaming bags of poop in last minute policies that served no purpose but to trip up trump, and then failed to put out the fires that had been started by Hillary and the FBI over this russiaburger nonsense.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 24 2019 03:44pm

I dunno, bro. I don't think he had the "pull" to totally quash the idea that Trump colluded. The Dems/left haven't exactly been playing fair, even for politicians. That's a lot of people to have against him IF he spilled the beans.


/e I also feel that he did get his hands dirty a few times during his time in office, maybe to much so, to WANT to stick his neck out like that.

This post was edited by Ghot on Mar 24 2019 03:45pm

If Obama had said it, would the base really turn on Obama? Would they ignore him?
I think he was literally the only person in the country who could have done it.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 24 2019 03:46pm

Dems aren't the left. They're left of the Republicans but still on the right.

I don't think anyone serious thinks that. Trump is no different than Obama in the Mid East and I'd argue that this administration has committed the most civil rights violations.