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Aug 28 2017 01:35pm
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inb4 some false equivalency bs.
'b-b-but obaaaaama...'


Well that already happened: some slower-witted Americans who have been totally warped by "whataboutism" culture tried to invoke Obama's handling of Chelsea Manning, but in doing so they admitted that they don't understand the difference between clemency and a pardon -- especially when the latter is given prior to sentencing, to say nothing of the fact that we know POTUS inquired about stopping the trial, which is key in putting together a case for intent.

Quote (excellence @ Aug 28 2017 10:36am)
unintelligible rambling
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This is impossible to read, for several reasons. Yes, obviously Trump's unique vulnerabilities put several long-held Republican states and districts in play: everything from Pete Sessions and Darrell Issa's U.S. House districts to the EVs of GA and AZ. Clinton carried the former and somehow even narrowly picked off the latter even after the letter.

Denying just basic, objective realities like the political and electoral impacts of the Comey letter(s) is just silly.
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Aug 28 2017 01:37pm
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This is impossible to read, for several reasons..

they're your own quotes, might explain your little issue there buddy.

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It isn't the polling that makes the notion that Trump's a viable candidate a laugher, it's everything else. The guy would get absolutely dominated in the battleground states




obligatory: thanks for the fucking fistful of laughs!!

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they're your own quotes, might explain your little issue there buddy.


There's nothing wrong with the quotes. Again, we know where the race was for the year+ before the Comey letter(s), and we know what impact they had. Everybody already agrees on all of this -- Clinton's team, Trump's team, the DNC, the RNC, PUSA, a consortium of prognosticators and media networks each with their own polling outfits. As long as you're just willfully burying your head in the sand on this, we're just going to be stuck at this same point, right here:

Quote (Pollster @ Aug 28 2017 12:35pm)
Denying just basic, objective realities like the political and electoral impacts of the Comey letter(s) is just silly.

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There's nothing wrong with the quotes. Again, we know where the race was for the year+ before the Comey letter(s), and we know what impact they had. Everybody already agrees on all of this -- Clinton's team, Trump's team, the DNC, the RNC, PUSA, a consortium of prognosticators and media networks each with their own polling outfits. As long as you're just willfully burying your head in the sand on this, we're just going to be stuck at this same point, right here:


by all means continue to cry about Comey investigating (C)linton for being a dumb dumb with her private now disconnected and bleachbit'd server, and for associating her private circle with scummy convicted criminal lowlifes like Anthony Weiner :lol:

poor, poor you and all the segregationist anti-civil rights (D)'s thinking the election was done and buried in July '16 after Comey saved Hillary from the planned Loretta Lynch/Wild Bill tarmac song and dance, now complete with redacted talking points.

in the meantime we will continue to chortle at your unwarranted self importance

Quote (Pollster @ 14 Sep 2016 16:42)
Just like how that Ohio poll conducted by Iowa's Ann Selzer that found Trump leading among an electorate (R+7) that will absolutely never materialize




obligatory: thanks for yet another fuckin laugh!!!!!!!

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Aug 28 2017 03:38pm
Pollster, you represent probably the only thing that Alex Jones gets right on his show. The rabid ultra leftist that's done nothing but bitch moan and look for excuses ever since Trump got elected. The ones that did everything they could to get the electoral college not to do their job and vote him in, the ones that cried Russia that turned out to be a "nothingburger", the ones that cried when he fired Comey despite wanting him fired over the Clinton emails, the constant cry of "racism", and finally the new way you've come up to discredit of Trump having an early onset of dementia.


Get over it, he won. We had to deal with 8 years of Obama. Your turn.




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unintelligible rambling


Appreciate the laugh on... whatever sentiments those were that you laughably tried to assign to me, and retroactively. Definitely deserves points for creativity and optimism, if nothing else.

Quote (excellence @ Aug 28 2017 01:36pm)
unintelligble rambling v2

You're still tapdancing in the same exact spot, you still haven't moved an inch. It's bizarre. This means we are still, yet again, exactly here:
Quote (Pollster @ Aug 28 2017 12:35pm)
Denying just basic, objective realities like the political and electoral impacts of the Comey letter(s) is just silly.


I do have to point out one thing though, since I'd regret passing up the opportunity to demonstrate your all-world ignorance: it's incredibly amusing that you don't seem to understand that a polling firm conducting a pre-election survey that just happens to consist of a weighted party sample with a Republican edge of 7%, such as 40R-33D-27I, is actually an entirely separate, different thing than a Republican candidate ultimately winning an election by (8?) points.

This is even ignoring the obvious implications of the Comey letter(s), everything else, etc., but that alone was worth pointing out. It's... wow, haha.

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Aug 29 2017 02:58pm
>waaaaaaaaaaaaah comey

if you want to keep it simple and keep repeating yourself, by all means its your prerogative.

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Just like how that Ohio poll conducted by Iowa's Ann Selzer that found Trump leading among an electorate (R+7) that will absolutely never materialize






e: no one care how pitiful polling firms like that tiny little shop you toiled at works (although supposedly it was a call center where you made $8.50/hour, different story for a different time though).
here's a poll a few days pre-election with some differently weighted party sample (37D-31.5R-31.5I). Is this the one that materialized which led to President Trump winning by +8????
http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_4c95f9bb0b874960a67b0cb7c019efd8.pdf

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Aug 29 2017 03:09pm
Amusingly you don't seem to grasp exactly what's happening here... these two concepts appear to be a little over your head. I guess I can just repeat what I wrote previously since nothing clicked. Here, I'll zoom in:

Quote (Pollster @ Aug 29 2017 01:27pm)
it's incredibly amusing that you don't seem to understand that a polling firm conducting a pre-election survey that just happens to consist of a weighted party sample with a Republican edge of 7%, such as 40R-33D-27I, is actually an entirely separate, different thing than a Republican candidate ultimately winning an election by (8?) points.

This is even ignoring the obvious implications of the Comey letter(s), everything else, etc., but that alone was worth pointing out. It's... wow, haha.


Don't have any idea what the rest of that incoherent babbling is about though.
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Aug 29 2017 03:23pm
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here's a poll a few days pre-election with some differently weighted party sample (37D-31.5R-31.5I). Is this the one that materialized which led to President Trump winning by +8????
http://media.wix.com/ugd/3bebb2_4c95f9bb0b874960a67b0cb7c019efd8.pdf


LOL, this just gets better and better. In addition to you having absolutely NO clue that what's being measured are two different, distinct things, you somehow, UNBELIEVABLY ended up finding a way to validate exactly what I said: With even the unlikeliest of scenarios happening in the Comey letter being sent, and it necessarily pushing the state/race towards Trump, it was still unreasonable to expect for the state to have a damn party sample that looked like what Selzer found in early September (obviously long before Comey et al)

Well done, dummy. Truly well done.

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LOL, this just gets better and better. In addition to you having absolutely NO clue that what's being measured are two different, distinct things, you somehow, UNBELIEVABLY ended up finding a way to validate exactly what I said: With even the unlikeliest of scenarios happening in the Comey letter being sent, and it necessarily pushing the state/race towards Trump, it was still unreasonable to expect for the state to have a damn party sample that looked like what Selzer found in early September (obviously long before Comey et al)

Well done, dummy. Truly well done.


Quote (Pollster @ 14 Sep 2015 18:54)
Almost all of the people voting in these kind of polls have no earthly idea how election outcomes are determined, if they aren't just voting to be funny. Raw vote levels, turnout dynamics, ground game operation, micro-targeting... these things go soaring ten feet over their heads.


despite all your talking in circles, you've been reduced to crying about Comey in every post of yours. Raw vote levels, turnout dynamics, ground game operations are way, way over your head.
youre the best $8.50/hour call center employee one could ever hope to have



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