My house will be called a house of prayer, but you are making it a den of robbers

well, im not saying christianity is or even was supposed to be exactly like judaism. jesus definitely did make some changes. but he never gave a blanket statement saying that you shouldnt follow the commandments in general. no where does it say 'thou shalt no longer rest on the sabbath, nor shalt thou refrain from the eating of the swine, being most tasty and delicious." nor did he ever say that sacrifices, including sin-offerings were or would be no longer brought once he became the grand sin offering for all. and evidence shows that they kept bringing sacrifices for quite some time after he died, until paul said it wasnt needed anymore. (see acts 21:17-26 where you clearly see that the followers of jesus living in jerusalem kept to the law, and asked paul to join in a sin-offering to show that he was as well.)






re:bolded

judaism is not just a set of laws, either, theres a way to approach things as well. a non-jew once came to a rabbi hillel and said he would convert if he could teach him the entire torah while standing on one foot. he replied "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary. Go and study it."

which brings us to the second bolded part, which is incorrect. the jewish version of the dictum is what i quoted above. christians say "do unto others what you would have done to you". the underlying intention is basically the same, but theres an important difference. the christian version preaches action, whereas the jewish version teaches inaction. if someone's desires are outside normal, the christian version tells them to go out and do that to others, who may not want it themselves. (ie a sadist likes being whipped. should they go out and whip others because they would have it done to them?)




maybe you shouldnt have let them in then...

This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Oct 4 2013 01:11pm

im not Jesus dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHxKvxqs9qs

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Oct 4 2013 01:29pm

aw, i thought youre the second coming...

that sounds like a dirty joke.

no it's ok i just checked some vids of this rabbi and found this one, looks funny
i wish you good things anyway

funny how?

thanks, same to you...

alright, well i guess thats it, then. neither icemage nor anyone else can refute my arguements, so they stand. i guess its time for you all to either convert to judaism or become noahides, as james suggested for non-jewish followers of jesus. (see acts 15:19-21; also see from first verse for context.)

...should have been " it " when you posted that nonsense . You know nothing of Christian doctrine or Biblical exegesis .

uh huh. i posted plenty of direct quotes. show me where i misinterpreted them instead of saying "phbbt, i dont like what you have to say because it challenges my beliefs, so im just going ignore you and pretend youre wrong.".

...you don't challenge my beliefs in the least . Not only do you not understand any of the partial citations you posted but you needed a youtube vid to make your case .