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Jun 11 2013 08:36am
Quote (hedonism @ Jun 11 2013 07:32am)
You were taught that if you committed crimes America wouldn't incarcerate you?


Crimes ? Not paying a student loan because there was no job to be had could land you in prison..You think Americans commit more crimes then the rest of the world?

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Jun 11 2013 08:42am
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Giving money to poor people won't fix poverty.  Giving money to drug addicts won't fix drug addiction.

that wasn't the implication. i meant put more money into education and factors that contribute to things like crime

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Crimes ? Not paying a student loan because there was no job to be had could land you in prison..You think Americans commit more crimes then the rest of the world?


Being free to steal money from banks isn't "freedom". Besides, your original point was based on the number of people in prison, and somehow I don't believe there are record breaking inmates who were unsuccessful college students.
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Jun 11 2013 08:49am
Quote (Anphrax @ Jun 11 2013 10:42am)
that wasn't the implication. i meant put more money into education and factors that contribute to things like crime


No, it doesn't. Maybe education will teach people to steal more effectively, but moral values about why it's wrong to steal and hurt one another comes from the home.

And you really think drug addicts start using because they were never taught that drugs are dangerous? LOL, how is education going to stop that one?
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Crimes ? Not paying a student loan because there was no job to be had could land you in prison..You think Americans commit more crimes then the rest of the world?


...perhaps if we brought back debtor prisons fewer kids would borrow $100K in the pursuit of a degree in women's studies or eskimo history .
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Being free to steal money from banks isn't "freedom". Besides, your original point was based on the number of people in prison, and somehow I don't believe there are record breaking inmates who were unsuccessful college students.


Listen you... People get paid to land others in prison...We will put you there if we get have a chance, for that bonus from private prisons handed out too judges and police...Prison gards all vote as a group, they a political force now there is soo many of them. just look at the amount of prisons and why people get put there...I don't think they over populated with gang members and killers...I would not doubt if most of them there for not paying a ticket or smoking a joint.
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Jun 11 2013 08:50am
@OP: Yes. But it won't be a military defeat or government revolution.

It will be a slow economic decline driven by increasing social inequality.

'Murica will continue to fall behind while other countries advance.
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Jun 11 2013 08:51am
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Listen you...  :fume:




:lol:

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Jun 11 2013 08:56am
Quote (doomchaser @ Jun 11 2013 10:49am)
Listen you... People get paid to land others in prison...We will put you there if we get have a chance, for that bonus from private prisons handed out too judges and police...Prison gards all vote as a group,  they a political force now there is soo many of them. just look at the amount of prisons and why people get put there...I don't think they over populated with gang members and killers...I would not doubt if most of them there for not paying a ticket or smoking a joint.


Have you ever been to a prison? Do us a favor; visit one and interact with some of the people there, then let us know how many of them were helpless victims of society.
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Jun 11 2013 09:07am
Quote (hedonism @ Jun 11 2013 07:56am)
Have you ever been to a prison? Do us a favor; visit one and interact with some of the people there, then let us know how many of them were helpless victims of society.


Some of my friends landed in prison, i went to work...When they get out, most of them say they going back soon lol...They can't handle it out in the world anymore and know it is just a matter of time...Something is wrong with this. We might as well brand them like they did to slaves in spartacus... Once we learn they a felon they cant get a job usually..
Sure we need prisons but for those who will cause harm to others or steal what is not thiers...Loans at your own risk bad credit should be all there is not prison.
Once we imprison people for a loan the loan company is the one policing us. You can't take a eduaction back from someone if they don't pay a loan..Soo they say they own you now? You are the property of the Loan holder who paid for your education...Better make them a profit or they will imprison you!!

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