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#51
Jun 10 2013 12:34pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 10 2013 10:34am)
..stalker alert....woop woop woop....stalker alert  :ph34r:


Someone brand new to these forums and spends 5 minutes browsing threads could figure that out

It doesn't require just perusing threads for a month
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#52
Jun 10 2013 12:37pm
Quote (Impose @ Jun 10 2013 02:34pm)
Someone brand new to these forums and spends 5 minutes browsing threads could figure that out

It doesn't require just perusing threads for a month


...here's a new idea . Try posting to the thread topic once in a while instead of stalking what I post every time you log on...woop woop woop
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#53
Jun 10 2013 12:37pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jun 10 2013 10:37am)
...here's a new idea . Try posting to the thread topic once in a while instead of stalking what I post every time you log on...woop woop woop


Why bother?

Half the time you post in a thread you derail it into a personal attack against someone else because they disagree with you
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#54
Jun 10 2013 12:47pm
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Jun 10 2013 09:21am)
I think what he did was important, however, I think it is an insult to the judicial system to pardon him just because people agree with his actions.


See Surfpunk's statement:
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 10 2013 09:21am)
What happened to the days when whistleblowers were lauded in this country, not mowed down?


We should commend him for standing up for civil liberties and pointing out government abuses. People often forget the second part of this famous quote:
"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right."
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#55
Jun 10 2013 01:50pm
Quote (MidnightRider @ Jun 10 2013 11:58am)
But we can rely on secret courts that are, for all intents and purposes, designed to to circumvent oversight, to determine what is, and what is not Constitutional?



I think we have different interpretations of what constitutes "proper judicial process."



Because we all know government agencies operate flawlessly.
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67286416&f=119&o=10


So instead of the government, we ought to trust an uneducated man who couldn't finish high-school?

It's embarrassing that there's even a discussion about this. He's a criminal who subverted the democratic process and jeopardized national security interests. We need to lock him up, and failing that, get rid of him.
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#56
Jun 10 2013 03:41pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Jun 10 2013 09:21am)
What happened to the days when whistleblowers were lauded in this country, not mowed down?


This.



http://news.msn.com/us/nsa-contract-worker-revealed-as-leak-source?ocid=ansnews11

What I found particularly telling was the last comment:

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Officials said the revelations were dangerous and irresponsible. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said the journalists who disclosed the operations did not grasp the consequences.

"He doesn't have a clue how this thing works," Rogers told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "Neither did the person who released just enough information to literally be dangerous."


So what I want to know is, if the government pays this company for analysis, they're either spectacularly inept for hiring companies/people who can't analyze, or they're lying.
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#57
Jun 10 2013 04:05pm
Quote (Santara @ Jun 10 2013 04:41pm)
So what I want to know is, if the government pays this company for analysis, they're either spectacularly inept for hiring companies/people who can't analyze, or they're lying.


Seeing that we're talking about the federal government, either one is equally plausible.
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#58
Jun 10 2013 04:09pm
Quote (Santara @ Jun 10 2013 04:41pm)
This.



http://news.msn.com/us/nsa-contract-worker-revealed-as-leak-source?ocid=ansnews11

What I found particularly telling was the last comment:



So what I want to know is, if the government pays this company for analysis, they're either spectacularly inept for hiring companies/people who can't analyze, or they're lying.


They didn't pay him for analysis. They paid him for his work in IT security, and he ended up giving away all the information they were paying him to protect.
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#59
Jun 10 2013 04:12pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 10 2013 03:09pm)
They didn't pay him for analysis. They paid him for his work in IT security, and he ended up giving away all the information they were paying him to protect.

Thank goodness there's still some red blooded patriotic Americans left in the world. This man should your next president.
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#60
Jun 10 2013 04:23pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 10 2013 05:09pm)
They didn't pay him for analysis. They paid him for his work in IT security, and he ended up giving away all the information they were paying him to protect.


uh...

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Risking prosecution by the U.S. government, a 29-year-old intelligence analyst,
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