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Jun 9 2013 08:24pm

I've heard people say "you don't need faith in science, science provides its own proof" or something along those lines. And the examples were you don't need faith because planes fly, computers work, etc. You can see that it works.

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Jun 9 2013 09:17pm

Quote (Mastersam93 @ Jun 9 2013 08:24pm)

That's a very naive view of science.

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Jun 9 2013 09:20pm

Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 9 2013 09:17pm)

That's a very naive view of science.

I think its more pointing out that everything we use today is derived from the scientific method, so there's not really any need for faith in science when the evidence is that I'm typing on a computer.

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Jun 9 2013 09:32pm

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 9 2013 09:20pm)

There's a difference between the mainstream modern scientific discourse, the mainstream and modern method of science through peer-review and consensus among 'experts', theoretical physics, mathematically dominated theories of cosmology, astronomy, quantum physics, etc. and the classical science that allowed us to build computers or fly in airplanes. Modern science is far more than simple machines built by understanding.

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Jun 9 2013 09:45pm

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 9 2013 09:20pm)

[e]verything we use today is derived from the scientific method

That is very far from reality.

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Jun 9 2013 09:55pm

Science is about as far as empiricism can take us, but there are other ways to learn and know.

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Jun 9 2013 10:17pm

Quote (killgoreisleet @ Jun 9 2013 11:45pm)

That is very far from reality.

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Jun 9 2013 10:58pm

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 10 2013 12:17am)

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Mitt-Romney-Laughing.gif

Fingers: derived from the scientific method
Vegetables: derived from the scientific method

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Jun 9 2013 11:09pm

Quote (Skinned @ Jun 9 2013 09:55pm)

Science is about as far as empiricism can take us, but there are other ways to learn and know.

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Jun 9 2013 11:45pm

Quote (AEtheric @ Jun 8 2013 06:53pm)

Should those who are atheists or those "I fucking love science" *bleep*, or both, be considered as having faith in science? It appears there are many fictitious constructions within science, but yet they still have faith in it, betraying their own common sense and the scientific method over a faith-filled scientific democracy among the mainstream? This article itself shows that these science *bleep* pray to their gods of Einstein and Michio Kaku in order to relieve stress just like theists pray to their god(s). I wonder when people will WAKE UP SHEEPLE and understand that science isn't infallible, like most of these *bleep* do.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/08/atheists-use-science-like-believers-use-faith-in-times-of-stress-says-study/

I've been saying this forever. People who don't understand math and science, but claim it to be all knowing are pretty much the same as any other person following a religion.

I'm a man who understands science and believes in a religion, I don't see why so many people think the two can't coexist.

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