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May 18 2013 08:40am
Quote (killgoreisleet @ May 18 2013 10:38am)
Not related, the survivor is fine, the one who died is of concern here.


I can see the headlines: "Man charged with murder, personhood of the victim still in question."
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May 18 2013 08:41am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 18 2013 09:37am)
...it may actually be considered not only murder but aggravated murder here in Ohio since the death of the fetus was the result of another felony being committed making him eligible for the death penalty .


Guy is in trouble if he is in Ohio. Rightfully so, what he did was terrible. I think aggravated murder would be extreme myself.

Quote (killgoreisleet @ May 18 2013 09:38am)
Not related, the survivor is fine, the one who died is of concern here.


Describe the person who died, start with the person's sex (since it hasn't had the benefit of socialized gender yet).

Quote (killgoreisleet @ May 18 2013 09:39am)
Yup, all abortion doctors should also receive life, it sucks they have to wait so long to receive proper judgement on their actions against others.


You are such a statist now, what happened to you?

Quote (hedonism @ May 18 2013 09:40am)
I can see the headlines: "Man charged with murder, personhood of the victim still in question."


Personhood is a tricky thing. If it wasn't tricky then people wouldn't be doing bioethics to figure it out.

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May 18 2013 08:46am
Quote (hedonism @ May 18 2013 08:40am)
I can see the headlines: "Man charged with murder, personhood of the victim still in question."


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May 18 2013 09:19am
Well when a girl gets aborted on her will it's not considered like murder so I don't see why he should be charged with murder, even tho what he did was still wrong

If he gets charged with murder then logically we'd have to charge every woman that gets aborted on her will with murder too

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May 18 2013 09:26am
Quote (Xhenovos @ May 18 2013 10:19am)
Well when a girl gets aborted on her will it's not considered like murder so I don't see why he should be charged with murder, even tho what he did was still wrong

If he gets charged with murder then logically we'd have to charge every woman that gets aborted on her will with murder too


Quite misusing the word "logic", making it mean "I think".

Also that exact thing has been addressed in this thread, which makes me think you didn't read the thread.
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May 18 2013 09:28am
Quote (Skinned @ May 18 2013 11:26am)
Quite misusing the word "logic", making it mean "I think".

Also that exact thing has been addressed in this thread, which makes me think you didn't read the thread.


You're right, I did not read the whole thread but does that make me wrong for giving out my opinion? Didn't think so so shut the fuck up
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May 18 2013 09:35am
Quote (Xhenovos @ May 18 2013 10:28am)
You're right, I did not read the whole thread but does that make me wrong for giving out my opinion? Didn't think so so shut the fuck up


Discussions require listening as well as speaking. You seem to be willing to do one.

Also I get irritated by people misusing the word "logic" for "reasoning". It has been happening a lot more lately because I hear it all over.

/e Sorry if I'm coming across grumpy right now, have wife aggro :(

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May 18 2013 09:41am
Quote (Skinned @ May 18 2013 11:35am)
Discussions require listening as well as speaking.  You seem to be willing to do one.

Also I get irritated by people misusing the word "logic" for "reasoning".  It has been happening a lot more lately because I hear it all over.

/e Sorry if I'm coming across grumpy right now, have wife aggro :(


it's cool, I respect that, I am sorry myself, good luck with your wife lol

/e Also, not trying to argue since you seem to be a cool guy afterall but in my opinion the term ''logic'' is relative, what would be your definition of logic? Because what you think is logic might not be logic to me

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May 18 2013 10:10am
Oh good. A way to make it also "a mans right to chose" as well. Fair is fair. I'm not for it, but there needs to be a mutual agreement.
Also, what the heck is a abortion pill?

This post was edited by simpleforce on May 18 2013 10:11am
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Oh good. A way to make it also "a mans right to chose" as well. Fair is fair. I'm not for it, but there needs to be a mutual agreement.
Also, what the heck is a abortion pill?


...we've been coating them with chocolate and dropping them from planes over Syria , Pakistan , Iran and Afghanistan :banana:
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