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May 13 2013 12:54pm
The Jews had the Italians kill Jesus. They both are brown skinned with funny noses. I can see why they hated blonde haired, blue eyed, gorgeous Jesus so much.
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May 13 2013 01:07pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ May 13 2013 01:54pm)
The Jews had the Italians kill Jesus. They both are brown skinned with funny noses. I can see why they hated blonde haired, blue eyed, gorgeous Jesus so much.


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May 13 2013 01:22pm
The question is really how much Caiaphas had to do with Jesus' death. Not that he reflects upon the Jews as a people, but whether or not there was Jewish influence in the execution of Jesus. An argument can certainly be made that the temple elite had a hand in Jesus' death.
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May 13 2013 01:47pm
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It was a very political move to make someone Jewish a ruler of their own people. 

He's not contending my claim that Pontius Pilate cared about the riots in his prefecture, OR even the fact that Pontius Pilate had an emperor to answer to.  I used the term Caesar because the guy was called Tiberius Caesar.


The Romans put client rulers up in provinces that were not located in the "core" regions (Western Europe, Greece). The farther from Rome the less power Rome has over it's provinces so it's simpler to prop up a puppet ruler (Which Herod was) with the head administrator with real power. They did this in much of Asia until they realized client rulers and vassal states are not as reliable as Roman administrators.

Pilate only cared about Judaea as ling as it made money for Rome. That was his job, and "appealing to the Jewish masses" would not make Rome more money. Getting rid of a religious leader however would be, and as I said before it has precedence with the Roman administrators in Gaul, Britannia and Germania executing and subverting the druids.

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May 13 2013 02:42pm
Thanks guys, I think I have a better idea now. I'm pretty impressed with Caedus' knowledge of Roman history, lol.
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May 13 2013 03:14pm
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Thanks guys, I think I have a better idea now. I'm pretty impressed with Caedus' knowledge of Roman history, lol.


TBH it's all stuff you'd learn in an intro Western Civ class (or at least I learned all that stuff in the one I took). You just have to pay attention to the teacher, assuming your teacher is a good lecturer :) Rome was a pretty damn cool place, and definitely worth studying.
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May 13 2013 03:15pm
Basic knowledge. High school class almost a decade ago on Rome and curiosity can get most of what I said.

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May 13 2013 03:23pm
Quote (Caedus @ May 13 2013 02:15pm)
Basic knowledge. High school class almost a decade ago on Rome and curiosity can get most of what I said.


Yes. But unfortunately not common knowledge, so still props to you for remembering :)
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May 13 2013 03:27pm
who articulated for the crucifixion of Jesus is called Caifaz
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May 13 2013 03:46pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ May 13 2013 03:14pm)
TBH it's all stuff you'd learn in an intro Western Civ class (or at least I learned all that stuff in the one I took).  You just have to pay attention to the teacher, assuming your teacher is a good lecturer :)  Rome was a pretty damn cool place, and definitely worth studying.


You forget I live in Florida and most of everything I have learned has been on my own dime and time.

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who articulated for the crucifixion of Jesus is called Caifaz


Ty

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