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May 6 2013 01:36pm
You get cancer cause you smoke, or don't eat enough fresh vegetables and fruits.

You get aids cause you have unprotected sex.

If a tornado destroys your roof, it means it wasn't built right.

Everything has a cause. Everything has a reason. God made the rules, you break them - you pay!
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May 6 2013 03:09pm
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You get cancer cause you smoke, or don't eat enough fresh vegetables and fruits.

You get aids cause you have unprotected sex.

If a tornado destroys your roof, it means it wasn't built right.

Everything has a cause. Everything has a reason. God made the rules, you break them - you pay!


Haha funny one, sad you are serious about this... else it would be a good joke.
I won't even bother waste time proving how wrong you are.
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May 6 2013 03:22pm
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You get cancer cause you smoke, or don't eat enough fresh vegetables and fruits.

You get aids cause you have unprotected sex.

If a tornado destroys your roof, it means it wasn't built right.

Everything has a cause. Everything has a reason. God made the rules, you break them - you pay!


a person is their families representative

if you don't love the world, don't create a family

not choosing life doesn't make one less worthy than one who always gets their way.

maybe the one who always gets their way will see the end of times.

is that some kind of honor?
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May 6 2013 03:25pm
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Please stick to real arguments based on the merit of the claim instead of how you feel about it.  This post is just saying that you don't like the implications, so they just can't be true.


You can't live with such a worldview. You have to think about your implications before you believe if they are true or not.

How can you make philosophical claims if they don't even present themselves in reality?

/e if you read his "chemical casuality" views, it isn't much of an argument either. alot of bogus claims with bogus conclusions.

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May 6 2013 03:33pm
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Haha funny one, sad you are serious about this... else it would be a good joke.
I won't even bother waste time proving how wrong you are.


of course you won't proove me wrong. cause you can't.

now that I replied to you, you will probly bring some weak and unrelated arguments.
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May 6 2013 06:10pm
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You can't live with such a worldview.  You have to think about your implications before you believe if they are true or not. 

How can you make philosophical claims if they don't even present themselves in reality?

/e if you read his "chemical casuality" views, it isn't much of an argument either.  alot of bogus claims with bogus conclusions.


Dude, all of this is basic physics and chemistry... Newton's 3rd law

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Sure, you can look at life however you want to.  But there is a dark implication to what you are positing.  A person with your worldview can justify mass murder.  He just blames it on his brain and character and said 'i had no choice!' 

So what is it?  Are we accountable by our actions or are we off the hook because we have no choice?


That does not make anything justifiable... Since when is nature a good excuse for something being justifiable?

He was in unfortunate places at unfortunate times.. He still did something that was wrong.

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May 6 2013 06:16pm
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of course you won't proove me wrong. cause you can't.

now that I replied to you, you will probly bring some weak and unrelated arguments.


Well, first that idea of justice you bring up is unreasonable... No just god would give someone cancer for smoking.
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May 6 2013 06:21pm
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That does not make anything justifiable... Since when is nature a good excuse for something being justifiable?

He was in unfortunate places at unfortunate times.. He still did something that was wrong.


So according to your causality worldview, a person does something wrong, but he is still wrong? Did you watch minority report? We all still have choice.

Even if chemicals or natural tendencies cause us to do anything in life, it is still a choice. Influences are obviously going to exist. Influence does not invalidate choice.
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May 6 2013 06:24pm
Quote (OnlyD3 @ May 5 2013 10:59pm)
Can allow for such tragedies to strike humanity? Cancer, aids, etc.. Who creates that for their "children"?



Isaiah 55:8-9

New International Version (NIV)

8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
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Quote (the_rest @ 6 May 2013 16:36)
You get cancer cause you smoke, or don't eat enough fresh vegetables and fruits.

You get aids cause you have unprotected sex.

If a tornado destroys your roof, it means it wasn't built right.

Everything has a cause. Everything has a reason. God made the rules, you break them - you pay!



more rational answer that is impossible.
congratulations! :thumbsup:
however when it comes to evidence is concerned, the answer lies in the law of reincarnation.
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