the message that Jesus left us is the law of love, nothing beyond that.
any other point that comes to eternal punishment, etc ... is contradictory to what Jesus gave us.

Jesus taught on eternal punishment. Are we supposed to skip those parts?

God is immutable, attributes of divinity this far from our understanding.
divine laws are instituted, jesus just gave us a better understanding.



would be incompatible with the law of love.
the image of God punishing, was created by moises to educate the people at that time, law of fear.

Would be incompatible? So Jesus was a liar?

in many religions is easier to keep track of people with fear of the law, with punitive God.
it's all in due time, each with their awakening to the knowledge

Fear is a wonderful motivator. However, you are attributing punishment with hate and fear, not me. I attribute the punishment of God with love. When my parents punished me as a child, I didn't think they hated me. I understand now (not then) that they punished me because they loved me.

Eternal punishment is not something we grasp because it's "eternal". However, God is perfect in his holiness, justice, and righteousness. Those who are in Christ are rewarded eternally. Those who are not are punished eternally.

I respect your point of view.

Paul Tillich, one of the foremost theologians in the 20th century, called this version of God the "invincible tyrant".

His theology is pretty weird though.

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 4 2013 06:27pm

We are 7 billion people on earth.
more than half are not Christians.
pretension of many Christians would think the rest will be lost.

Do you think everyone will be in heaven?