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#51
Oct 8 2012 06:16pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 8 2012 06:11pm)
Evolution does not make sense without reincarnation... think about evolution of mankind last 10000 years... and last 100 years.
You just have to understand reincarnation correctly... The autor of the present does not mean you can be reincarnated in a bug, a fish, a bird, an ape... after you die as human. He means you had to be them at some point before you evolved to human. Try to remember the present moment is eternal, and that you are not your mind, you are the spirit listening to your mind and other senses.
Can we maybe discuss about this somewhere else as this is NOT the subject of this thread ?
Just pm me if you want to talk about this... I will make a thread about evolution later anyway (if my body does not die tomorrow).


Evolution makes sense without reincarnation. You do not have to be those previous beings in order to come to life as a human. There is no scientific evidence for reincarnation, nor is there any for an eternal spirit. Science shows that there is a brain that is the producer of consciousness, and when you die that brain stops working so your consciousness goes to oblivion. That certainly rules out the existence of reincarnation.
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#52
Oct 8 2012 06:18pm
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Did you read this thread ? I did not link anything else than d2jsp on this particular thread..


...except that you linked your other thread which does provide an outside link in the very first post . Why are you lying ?
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#53
Oct 8 2012 06:21pm
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...except that you linked your other thread which does provide an outside link in the very first post . Why are you lying ?


So, talk about the outside link (and evolution) on other thread ? You guys do not understand anything ?

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Evolution makes sense without reincarnation. You do not have to be those previous beings in order to come to life as a human. There is no scientific evidence for reincarnation, nor is there any for an eternal spirit. Science shows that there is a brain that is the producer of consciousness, and when you die that brain stops working so your consciousness goes to oblivion. That certainly rules out the existence of reincarnation.


"It does not make sense that human beings would just appear at the top of the evolutionary ladder to reap the benefits of those millions of years of evolution."
Actually, there is no evidence that reincarnation is not true.

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No, it does make sense.  That stupid book makes so many unqualified claims that say something like 'this is logical' or 'this is scientifically true' when there isn't a single bit of logic or science in it, and all it does is shred logic and science to pieces.

There is no evidence that reincarnation is true, and there is evidence that reincarnation isn't true, hence my post #51.


Your brain stops working when your body die, does not mean that your spirit does have to die with it...
You are not your mind, you are the spirit listening to it...

There is no evidence our spirits are not eternal... and the present moment is obviously eternal.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Oct 8 2012 06:45pm
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Oct 8 2012 06:24pm
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"It does not make sense that human beings would just appear at the top of the evolutionary ladder to reap the benefits of those millions of years of evolution."
Actually, there is no evidence that reincarnation is not true.


There's no evidence I'm not having hot, steamy sex with a pair of bikini models right now.




...aaaaaaaany minute now, guys. Any minute now.
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Oct 8 2012 06:28pm
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So, talk about the outside link (and evolution) on other thread ? You guys do not understand anything ?



"It does not make sense that human beings would just appear at the top of the evolutionary ladder to reap the benefits of those millions of years of evolution."
Actually, there is no evidence that reincarnation is not true.


No, it does make sense. That stupid book makes so many unqualified claims that say something like 'this is logical' or 'this is scientifically true' when there isn't a single bit of logic or science in it, and all it does is shred logic and science to pieces.

There is no evidence that reincarnation is true, and there is evidence that reincarnation isn't true, hence my post #51.
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#56
Oct 8 2012 06:44pm
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"It does not make sense that human beings would just appear at the top of the evolutionary ladder to reap the benefits of those millions of years of evolution."
Actually, there is no evidence that reincarnation is not true.


Also false, there is no "evolutionary ladder" and no currently existing lifeform is "more evolved" than any other.

Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 8 2012 08:21pm)

"It does not make sense that human beings would just appear at the top of the evolutionary ladder to reap the benefits of those millions of years of evolution."
Actually, there is no evidence that reincarnation is not true.


Actually, there is no evidence that religions are untrue, that God doesn't exist, that you are a complete imbecile, etc. etc.
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Oct 8 2012 06:45pm
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Also false, there is no "evolutionary ladder" and no currently existing lifeform is "more evolved" than any other.



Actually, there is no evidence that religions are untrue, that God doesn't exist, that you are a complete imbecile, etc. etc.


Slow the fuck down, I'm pretty sure I can find some in this thread.
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#58
Oct 8 2012 06:48pm
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Also false, there is no "evolutionary ladder" and no currently existing lifeform is "more evolved" than any other.



Actually, there is no evidence that religions are untrue, that God doesn't exist, that you are a complete imbecile, etc. etc.


Human is the only animal that have no predator (other than human...) --> we are on the top of food chain... and we have a mind (that we use it in a very bad way as evidenced by your post on this thread), so yes we are more evolved than other animals...
There are evidences physical resurrection is impossible --> Christianity is not true.
I never said god doesn't exist, I said it is not a superman in the sky sending his son on earth (via a woman who never had sex, nice joke) to do miracles... I said god is life, and life is the miracle itself.

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#59
Oct 8 2012 07:10pm
Im probably the person most against religion in this subforum yet the way you are going about it, is not at all ideal.

People will be religious. Let them. I have many religious friends yet I dont go out of my way to bash them for believing in something that has no rational evidence.


Trying to bash people based on their beliefs gets you no where, people have to respect you before they listen to you.
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#60
Oct 8 2012 07:15pm
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Im probably the person most against religion in this subforum yet the way you are going about it, is not at all ideal.

People will be religious. Let them. I have many religious friends yet I dont go out of my way to bash them for believing in something that has no rational evidence.


Trying to bash people based on their beliefs gets you no where, people have to respect you before they listen to you.


...oh , I doubt that very much . I have seen posters go apoplectic with rage on PaRD . I don't even think you'd make the top 100 .
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