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Jul 18 2012 01:36pm
Quote (doomchaser @ 18 Jul 2012 21:35)
Let's all agree on something ...No one can handle truths when all of their previous thoughts and reality could be wrong...soo we attack those who ask things that don't seem fit into the reality we want to believe in


I don't attack him I asked a simple question WHY WOULD IRAN HELP PALESTINIANS?
And he wrote a wall of text that means nothing.

These are Suni and these are Shia why would they play together.
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Jul 18 2012 01:37pm
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Let's all agree on something ...No one can handle truths when all of their previous thoughts and reality could be wrong...soo we attack those who ask things that don't seem fit into the reality we want to believe in


...no thank you . Most of us don't buy into your slanted ( being kind here ) worldview .
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Jul 18 2012 01:37pm
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I don't attack him I asked a simple question WHY WOULD IRAN HELP PALESTINIANS?
And he wrote a wall of text that means nothing.

These are Suni and these are Shia why would they play together.


you did attack him shamelessly you can retrace your attacks on him...but we all do it buddy...ignores window maker he can't agree on simple truth

This post was edited by doomchaser on Jul 18 2012 01:40pm
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Jul 18 2012 01:39pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 18 2012 07:34pm)
Its all a political play the common shia citizen in Iran might hate the common suni in Gaza but on the Political play ground they play with it to their benefit thats why Shia and Suni can play togther and they are playing together in the same sand box in the middle east.



I don't hate you and I don't hate Goomshill I pitty people who take the subject and twist it so it will mean totally different thing.
Palestinians are Suni why would Iran Help them they are Shiat so according to Goomshill theory they shoul be fighting.


If you check closly this day 18 years ago Hizbollah exploded the Jewish community building in Argentina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994%5FAMIA%5Fbombing Coincidence?? I don't think so.


The fact that 18 years ago a terrorist attack happened does not in any way give any power to the argument that Iran/Hezbollah must be behind this attack.

We have nothing to form any conclusions with at this moment regarding who's behind these attacks. We can have suspicions, but there is nothing even close to a reasonable amount of certainty.
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Jul 18 2012 01:40pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 18 2012 01:34pm)
Its all a political play the common shia citizen in Iran might hate the common suni in Gaza but on the Political play ground they play with it to their benefit thats why Shia and Suni can play togther and they are playing together in the same sand box in the middle east.


No, they don't, you dolt.
They infight and backstab one another to great effect, keeping them totally fractious and letting external forces like Russian and the USA manipulate their conflicts for half a century
The muslim world is deeply divided and has, to the complete opposite effect of what you said, not been able to unite together in a common cause and stand against Israel or any other force

Which is exactly what groups like Al Qaeda want to accomplish in the long run, uniting the Arab peninsula under one banner- and they've been failing miserably at it.
They do not play well together and they do not come together in the "same bank", you clearly have no clue what is going on just inches outside your bubble world.
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Jul 18 2012 01:46pm
Quote (balrog66 @ 18 Jul 2012 21:39)
The fact that 18 years ago a terrorist attack happened does not in any way give any power to the argument that Iran/Hezbollah must be behind this attack.

We have nothing to form any conclusions with at this moment regarding who's behind these attacks. We can have suspicions, but there is nothing even close to a reasonable amount of certainty.


I know it doesn't but it has more weight then goomshill's claim.

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No, they don't, you dolt.
They infight and backstab one another to great effect, keeping them totally fractious and letting external forces like Russian and the USA manipulate their conflicts for half a century
The muslim world is deeply divided and has, to the complete opposite effect of what you said, not been able to unite together in a common cause and stand against Israel or any other force

Which is exactly what groups like Al Qaeda want to accomplish in the long run, uniting the Arab peninsula under one banner- and they've been failing miserably at it.
They do not play well together and they do not come together in the "same bank", you clearly have no clue what is going on just inches outside your bubble world.


I don't care about russians and usa I care about weapons coming from Iran into Gaza from Iran to Hizbollah...
These are Suni's and these are shia.



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Jul 18 2012 01:47pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 18 2012 01:36pm)
I don't attack him I asked a simple question WHY WOULD IRAN HELP PALESTINIANS?
And he wrote a wall of text that means nothing.

These are Suni and these are Shia why would they play together.


Because Iran are more (relatively) moderate and tolerant, a political ruling party, whereas Al-Qaeda is an ideologically driven religious group that is virulently intolerant and violent.
This isn't a hard thing to grasp.

Do not make some idiotic oversimplification like thinking Iran and the PA are in the same bank. Their relationship is at best tenuous.
They have a good deal of animosity at work there too. However Iran is mostly willing to look past it since they aren't ideologically driven fanatics. Hence the hamas connection
Al-Qaeda is precisely that- ideologically driven fanatics. They will not work with shiites. Its not complicated. They hate them more than they hate you.


Your lumping in Al Qaeda with Iran is nonsensical and naive and shows you have no understanding of the arab world or middle east, a bit ironic considering where you live

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Jul 18 2012 01:47pm
The bottom line is that Israel will pull the trigger on Iran and we're (U.S.) going to have to get involved to clean up the mess.
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Jul 18 2012 01:50pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Jul 2012 21:47)
Because Iran are more (relatively) moderate and tolerant, a political ruling party, whereas Al-Qaeda is an ideologically driven religious group that is virulently intolerant and violent.
This isn't a hard thing to grasp.

Do not make some idiotic oversimplification like thinking Iran and the PA are in the same bank. Their relationship is at best tenuous.
They have a good deal of animosity at work there too. However Iran is mostly willing to look past it since they aren't ideologically driven fanatics.
Al-Qaeda is precisely that- ideologically driven fanatics. They will not work with shiites. Its not complicated. They hate them more than they hate you.

Your lumping in Al Qaeda with Iran is nonsensical and naive and shows you have no understanding of the arab world or middle east, a bit ironic considering where you live


You made the oversimplification when you claimed Israel made the attack see where this is going to?

Quote (FlawlessGems @ 18 Jul 2012 21:47)
The bottom line is that Israel will pull the trigger on Iran and we're (U.S.) going to have to get involved to clean up the mess.


we are not going to pull the trigger against Iran its deffiantly going to be the U.S and deffiantly before us..

The bottom line is that we have 7 dead people
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Jul 18 2012 01:52pm
If Israel is such a country for false flag operations, why didn't they just let Gilad Shalit get beheaded?

I'm pretty damn sure that would have caused far far far more outrage, yet they traded the soldier for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.
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