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Really? I can't seem to find that in the Bible anywhere. Could you show me the exact verse where Jesus says that?


Matthew 19:4 Jesus condones the heterosexual relationship and validates the original design that God intended. Nowhere did he condone the homosexual relationship. He didn't speak on it because it was already in law, and Paul (who had the authority of Christ) later spoke out on it.
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Matthew 19:4 Jesus condones the heterosexual relationship and validates the original design that God intended.  Nowhere did he condone the homosexual relationship.  He didn't speak on it because it was already in law, and Paul (who had the authority of Christ) later spoke out on it.


that verse is about divorce .....
and saul was a fraud
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I hope to take Christianity out of the dark ages.
and into logic
or to take myself out of christianity
and into logic

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that verse is about divorce .....
and saul was a fraud


There are many more truths in that passage besides divorce.
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Jun 21 2012 12:35pm
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Matthew 19:4 Jesus condones the heterosexual relationship and validates the original design that God intended.  Nowhere did he condone the homosexual relationship.  He didn't speak on it because it was already in law, and Paul (who had the authority of Christ) later spoke out on it.


19 Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these sayings, that He departed from Galilee and came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”

4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”

8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men,[B]and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”


Jesus bashes divorce and condones homosexuality in that passage.

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19 Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these sayings, that He departed from Galilee and came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”

4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”

8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men,[B]and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”


Jesus bashes divorce and condones homosexuality in that passage.


... You do know what a Eunuch is right?
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19 Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these sayings, that He departed from Galilee and came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”

4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”

8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men,[B]and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”


Jesus bashes divorce and condones homosexuality in that passage.


Jesus was a man.
and men make mistakes
The lord shall fix all.


maybe he lied to us told us the truth but not the whole truth

in a society where we accept gays
he knows that we are no ignorant enough to say lets never have gay sex

Corinthians
there is a time and place for everything

if you cannot back up your argument with 100 pieces of scripture then my friend you are going to hell and I pray for you

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Jesus was a man.
and men make mistakes
The lord shall fix all.


maybe he lied to us told us the truth but not the whole truth

in a society where we accept gays
he knows that we are no ignorant enough to say lets never have gay sex

Corinthians
there is a time and place for everything

if you cannot back up your argument with 100 pieces of scripture then my friend you are going to hell and I pray for you


uhh... I can't tell if you are a Christ follower or a troll..
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Jun 21 2012 01:08pm
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 21 2012 07:06pm)
uhh... I can't tell if you are a Christ follower or a troll..


ask your creator and you shall find knowledge as beautiful as quantum physics <3
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Jun 21 2012 01:09pm
Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 21 2012 02:59pm)
... You do know what a Eunuch is right?


That bold part means that some men are born without the ability to reproduce, some men physically become that way, and those who take the vow of priesthood can't have kids. A eunuch is someone who is castrated.
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