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Mar 11 2012 05:27am
We do not fear the palestinians, the rockets do hurt us and fucks our daily life but from this point and telling me I am driven out of fear?
Every house in Israel got a bomb shelter, rocket won't do much but disrupting or daily life and wouldn't be accepted by any other normal country no matter how you going to present it.
Many people do fear to loose their jobs to loose their business to loose their house, but we are not driven out of fear.

As for Iran
As an X soldier in the Israeli special forces.
I don't think Iran is equal not even almost equal their army is out dated vs Israel that as all the newest technology available to any country.

Besides you forget not everything can be done with bombs, sometimes the special forces are the bomb.

Now about the claim we are pulling an American based false flag attacks seriously show me a proof or shut it stop vomiting lies in this thread please.

Goomshill you are the delusional one you are the ignorant one for thinking we will actually give this place up and leave, this is my home and I will do what ever it takes to defend it, in the face of delusional, ignorant and frustrated people like you that tries to change the world from a gaming forum...
Good luck.

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Mar 11 2012 05:33am
Gingrich has something to say @ aipac aswell
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Mar 11 2012 07:47am
My greatest fear is that we, Israelis, will become like any other Muslim country around us.
That when their leaders wants to hold on to their thrown they just shouting "Death to Israel, death to Zion - Allah Akbar " and the crowed follows.
I just wish we wont be blinded from hate and vote to those who wish only to harm Palestinians.
Security issues never really scared me. I'm not feeling in danger if Iran gets nukes or not. I just hope that IF Iran will trow their nukes at us, we will have enough balls to take them down with us.
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Mar 11 2012 08:21am
Iran is being buried under economic sanctions, they can get a bomb, they can threaten the straits of Hormuz, their regimes days are numbered.
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Mar 11 2012 09:55am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 11 2012 03:47pm)

Security issues never really scared me. I'm not feeling in danger if Iran gets nukes or not. I just hope that IF Iran will trow their nukes at us, we will have enough balls to take them down with us.


A recent speech from Khamenei;
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The purpose of the uproar they cause is to stop us. They know that we are not after nuclear weapons. They already know this. I do not have any doubts that in the countries that are opposed to us, the organizations in charge of decision-making are fully aware that we are not after nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are not at all beneficial to us. Moreover, from an ideological and fiqhi perspective, we consider developing nuclear weapons as unlawful. We consider using such weapons as a big sin. We also believe that keeping such weapons is futile and dangerous, and we will never go after them. They know this, but they stress the issue in order to stop our movement.

We want to prove to the world that nuclear weapons do not bring about power. This is because the nuclear powers are suffering from the biggest problems today. They dominated the world through nuclear threats, but today such threats are no longer effective. We want to say that we are not after nuclear weapons, that we do not believe nuclear weapons bring about power and that we can break the kind of power that is based on nuclear weapons. By Allah’s favor, our nation will do this.

Of course, you know that the pressure they exert on us – the pressure of sanctions, threats, assassinations and other such things – is a sign of their weakness. It shows that whatever they do will only strengthen our nation.

This movement is not just a nuclear movement. Today their pretext is the nuclear issue. They use the nuclear pretext to impose sanctions on us. How long is it since the nuclear issue was first brought up? The sanctions have been there for thirty years. Why were they imposing sanctions on us when the nuclear issue did not exist? It is just a matter of fighting a nation that has decided to become independent, a nation that has decided to resist oppression, a nation that has decided to expose oppression, a nation that has decided to stand up against oppressors and oppression, a nation that is determined to convey this message to the entire world.



Ahmadinejad is also against getting atomic bombs, in a speech he has said that they are a wise nation, and they wont get 2 bombs in the face of your(western powers) 20,000 bombs.
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Mar 11 2012 10:03am
Quote (amatsukami @ Mar 11 2012 03:55pm)
A recent speech from Khamenei;



Ahmadinejad is also against getting atomic bombs, in a speech he has said that they are a wise nation, and they wont get 2 bombs in the face of your(western powers) 20,000 bombs.


Don't get me wrong, i still think they should never get a nuclear weapon.
I do not believe a word he is saying. I'm watching his speeches on T.V and it reminds me of Hitler speeches.
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Mar 11 2012 10:13am
Of course they're getting bombs, nobody doubts that. But the reasoning is obvious, and you Israelis are entirely responsible.
They want the nuke because they feel threatened, obviously, because you keep sabre rattling and threatening to blow them to kingdom come, and throwing sanction after sanction on them.
Then you look at North Korea, and how much better they are doing this very minute simply because of their nukes.

Iran will get the bomb, it is a matter of time. They might not even really get it- simply hide enough and fake that they have one. We don't know. The DPRK might not even have nukes for all we know; the underground explosion could have been conventionally faked.



Every tactic Israel takes to build more walls upon its borders and live as an island upon force, just makes those walls close in and footing more unstable.
The more you try to dig in, the longer you hold out, the worse it will get. There was once a time when the American-backed Israelis could be a century ahead of the arabs on your weapons. Now the arabs will catch up with nukes, with modern weapons, with modern armies.
It is indefensible. The more people you kill in your vain delusion of "protection", the more you drive people to want to exterminate you.
What you are building is a sandcastle- able to be swept away in one tide.
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Mar 11 2012 10:14am
I don't think they or anyone for that case should get nuclear weapons, anyone who currently has nuclear weapons should work on disarmament.
I can't comment on what he says on your television but I can say that it is not rare for Iranian officals to be misquoted, especially in US media.

Some examples,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/jun/14/post155
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Mar 11 2012 10:19am
The more nuclear weapons in the hands of stable regimes like Iran, the better. Because MAD is the only peace we will get in the post cold-war era.
The cats out of the bag, we can't have peace through disarmament; look at how nuclear countries are able to exploit, invade and sanction non-nuclear countries, but dare not go near fellow nuke-clubbers.
In the hands of Iran, a nuke would go a great deal towards world peace- containing the Israeli threat and enforcing the uneasy detente in the middle east.
Without nukes, Israel is free to start wars and invade any country they want. With nukes, neither side can attack the other.
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Mar 11 2012 10:21am
Sorry sir.
The reason of them getting nukes is only in their desire to wipe us out. There is no hidden message in Iran speeches calling to wipe out Zion.
The sanctions came only AFTER their's attempt to get nukes, not before, And so does the Israelis threats.
And anyway, Who are WE to make sanctions ? we are a small country with no capability once or ever to do that.
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