Quote (Torm1 @ Dec 30 2011 10:55pm)
It's not a troll attempt, most of that is in the bible. Lucifer was a created being who rebelled against the Living God.
I am convinced your all powerful god only shows weakness when it involves baiting suckers into believing the fairy tale. Simply put, God can toss out a Big Bang but can't seem to right the wrongs, convincingly prove he exists, destroy a pesky fallen angel or validate human existence with anything other then feeding his Bloodlust and Crazed ego.
Quote (ArcticShadow @ Dec 30 2011 12:50pm)
I guess no one can argue that religion isn't blindly believing what you've been told instead of looking at the evidence.
What you call an "expert" is simply someone who believes the same myth, not someone who has some level of skill or mastery of anything.
And you can't disprove something that has never been shown to exist. If you want to go that route then prove bigfoot doesn't exist.
You have a better shot proving Bigfoot doesn't exist.
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 30 2011 04:46am)
My evidence is that historians, who know more about history than both you and me, believe that Jesus existed....and they used the historical method to do it. If anything, it is YOUR job to prove why the historical method doesn't work. You must also be aware of the ramifications of doing so (i.e. applying the same argument to all historical figures).
That is not evidence.. Let's get some lists of credible historians who have proof jesus existed, I am sure there are historians who believe in Unicorns. Do you even know what field of study these supposed historians are versed in?
Quote (Torm1 @ Dec 29 2011 08:41pm)
Josephus being the most predominant probably.
Not only that, but there are multiple thousands of copies of the original manuscripts that were written in the 1st century available in museums today, which is also why we have such accurate translations of the bible today.
Quote (Torm1 @ Dec 29 2011 08:41pm)
But even with all the evidence, the most important issue is still whether you deny Christ or accept him.
That's not evidence, yet again you confuse scriptures with historical evidence..
Quote (Wyrmvater @ Dec 29 2011 07:48pm)
You don't know what Jesus preached, neither does youtube. All written accounts of jesus's words came from sources who never met him or listened to a single word he spoke.