Quote (ChaosIII @ May 23 2011 03:18am)

they came to earth in 11000bc yeah? And after god created the world in so many days they got put on the earth?  how come is there eividence that dinosaurs were here millions and millions of years before adam and eve were here?

Quote (njaguar @ May 23 2011 07:50am)

What language are you using? It fits every definition of the term explanation. Just because you choose to use a different metric to come to an explanation does not necessarily mean another explanation is less valid. Neither is empirical, and both require belief.

Quote (VxDoomxV @ 23 May 2011 10:50)

Science is progressing toward a truth while* religion is moving backwards.

Quote (majorblood @ 23 May 2011 10:51)

I have never heard of humans[homo-sapiens] being around for 6 million years, can you point this out?

Quote (majorblood @ May 23 2011 11:51am)

I have never heard of humans[homo-sapiens] being around for 6 million years, can you point this out?

Quote (majorblood @ May 23 2011 09:51am)

I have never heard of humans[homo-sapiens] being around for 6 million years, can you point this out?

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The fossil record of human ancestors may go back 6 million years or more, and the genus Homo arose at least 1.8 million years ago when australopithecines evolved into human ancestors known as Homo habilis.

Quote (inkanddagger @ 23 May 2011 15:42)

The Ark of Noah was a barge-like structure probably built of cypress or cedar ("gopherwood"). It was about 450 feet long by 75 feet in beam, and 45 feet high. Such a boat would displace 20,000 tons and have a gross tonnage of 14,000 tons. There were three decks, one door (in the side) and a window 18 inches high probably running around the top of the vessel under the roof. The ark was caulked "within and without" with pitch (Hebrew: kopher = "to cover,"---translated "atonement" elsewhere in the Old Testament).

The capacity of the ark was about 522 railroad cars, (1.4 million cubic feet). Only 188 railroad cars would be required to hold a pair of each of the 17,600 species of animals presently known to man, according to Dr. John Morris of the Institute of Creation Research. (This number of cars includes food supplies for a year's subsistence). From this we can assume that many perhaps as many as two-third of the species originally created by God are already extinct.

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God instructs Noah to board the Ark with his family, seven pairs of the birds and the clean animals, and one pair of the unclean animals

Quote (majorblood @ 23 May 2011 10:55)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explanation

yes wikipedia isn't the most credible site, but it's a start. if it is at all relevant it clearly points out explanations are an assortment of facts - this is where evidence is neccesary and this is where the christian "explanation" lacks. i don't know why you're randomly pointing out what language i'm using, that's nearly ad hominem and unnecessary.

Quote (njaguar @ May 23 2011 11:55am)

Various textbooks over the years have stated various dates. I have read them between 6m to 5k years, depending on who is doing the writing. There is no "consensus" on how old homosapiens are, which even a small amount of research will show. I see more resources stating millions of years than I do thousands, or hundreds of thousands. That's a pretty big margin of error, which I stated in my original comment.

Quote (inkanddagger @ May 23 2011 09:42am)

The Ark of Noah was a barge-like structure probably built of cypress or cedar ("gopherwood"). It was about 450 feet long by 75 feet in beam, and 45 feet high. Such a boat would displace 20,000 tons and have a gross tonnage of 14,000 tons. There were three decks, one door (in the side) and a window 18 inches high probably running around the top of the vessel under the roof. The ark was caulked "within and without" with pitch (Hebrew: kopher = "to cover,"---translated "atonement" elsewhere in the Old Testament).

The capacity of the ark was about 522 railroad cars, (1.4 million cubic feet). Only 188 railroad cars would be required to hold a pair of each of the 17,600 species of animals presently known to man, according to Dr. John Morris of the Institute of Creation Research. (This number of cars includes food supplies for a year's subsistence). From this we can assume that many perhaps as many as two-third of the species originally created by God are already extinct.

Quote (AyeCaramba @ May 23 2011 08:57am)

That may well be so, but that's rather irrelevant to working out how much room it would take, since anyone who thinks the bible stipulates two of each hasn't read that part very carefully. It's a lot more than 2 of each:



Still waiting for proof to be found on Mt Ararat.... Anyone else think I'll be waiting a long time?