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May 15 2011 12:09pm

Quote (Many_Names @ May 15 2011 03:04pm)
Yes but what is your point??


my point is when you said that....
Quote (Many_Names @ May 15 2011 10:19am)
We created 2 new weapons First is UZI and Galil which is similar weapon to the AK-47.
The American Supplies came only after the veitnam war on 68 but officially on 73, 2 weeks into the "Yom Kipur" war.
So from 48 to to 73 we fought by ourselves.
israel didnt just create guns out of thin air... america gave israel all the money to do the testing and devloping, even on all the nukes they own.
( witch by the way is agains the U.N resoulation for israel to have nukes)
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Quote (Many_Names @ May 15 2011 11:54am)
Goomshill its seems you lost your patients how can you call 5 nations and 4 armies kids with rocks?
$1.3 billion to develop the Lavi aircraft (cancelled)
$625 million to develop and deploy the Arrow anti-missile missile (an ongoing project) we didn't deploy any of these yet it is a defensive weapon.
$200 million to develop the Merkava tank (operative); the latest version, the Merkava 4, uses a German V-12 diesel engine produced under license in the U.S. by General Dynamics the uses the same thing aren't they?
$130 million to develop the high-energy laser anti-missile system (ongoing). we develope the lasr but it seems we won't see this weapon here, if we did we could just sit back and relaxx.
ALL AFTER 1973.


israel has been getting its weapons from america and the west since 1948, not "since 1973".
sorry to shatter your delusions of israeli singularity.


screw "giving them money to make guns", thats barely anything compared to the vast amount of guns/planes/etc they got directly.
For example, operation balak.

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Infantry weapons
34,500 P 18 rifles
5,515 MG 34 machine guns with 10,000 ammo belts
10,000 bayonets vz.24
900 vz. 37 heavy machine guns
500 vz. 27 pistols
[edit]Other infantry weapons
12 ZK-383 submachine guns
10 ZK 420 semi-automatic rifles
500 vz. 26 light machine guns (shipped, yet delivery not confirmed in Czech sources)
[edit]Ammunition
91,500,000 7,92 x 57 mm cartridges
15,000,000 9mm Parabellum cartridges
375,000 13mm cartridges for MG 131
150,000 20mm cartridges for MG 151
375,000 7.65mm cartridges for vz. 27 pistol
[edit]Aircraft
25 Avia S-199 fighters
61 Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IX fighters


Lots of leftover german weapons for the israelis to purchase from a west proxy, eh?

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I didn't denied having support from the US I denied having it when we had the 4 big wars.
NO ONE HELPED US!
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May 15 2011 12:12pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 15 May 2011 20:10)
israel has been getting its weapons from america and the west since 1948, not "since 1973".
sorry to shatter your delusions of israeli singularity.


There is a difference between buying weapons and getting support.
If you do not what is the difference I will explain.

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I didn't denied having support from the US I denied having it when we had the 4 big wars.
NO ONE HELPED US!


LOL yea right... thats a joke, dont even think for a second that american CIA agents didnt train israeli soldiers and leaders how to fight/kill
those 4 wars that you had where a total cake walk for the trained israeli military going up against farmers and normal people!

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There is a difference between buying weapons and getting support.


buying weapons with money that the american tax payers gave.. or that was stolen from palistine

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LOL yea right... thats a joke, dont even think for a second that american CIA agents didnt train israeli soldiers and leaders how to fight/kill
those 4 wars that you had where a total cake walk for the trained israeli military going up against farmers and normal people!


We actually train American Soldiers today.

That claim is also unbased.

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buying weapons with money that the american tax payers gave.. or that was stolen from palistine


So now we stole their money? how did we stole it we didn't had country when they opened war?

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Quote (Many_Names @ May 15 2011 03:13pm)
We actually train American Soldiers today.


you're jumping around now.. we where talking about the 4 wars, not today
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May 15 2011 12:16pm
Let me understand something is buying weapons ilegal now?

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my last point here, because this threads kinda turning into a arguement thread.. but my last question is what about the levian affare when israeli planes bombed the USS liberty for 24 hours trying to sink it so that america would go to war with egypt?

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Quote (Many_Names @ May 15 2011 03:16pm)
Let me understand something is buying weapons ilegal now?


no, my point was israel is buying the weapons with american tax payers money..
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