Just like you don't have to believe in a God to have motivation to harm others.
Repetitive argument is repetitive.

Also, I never said that you have to be religious to have morals. I am merely implying that being religious does not magically devoid one of said morals.

ok a bunch of things here

to believe that we are the only intelligent being in the universe is crazy there has to be more out there somewhere otherwise whats the point.

next i dont know if there is a god or allah or whoever your god is but why is this here why is any of this happening why is there life and whats its meaning

i believe something somewhere may exist but i do not believe in religion. Religion is evil how many people over time have been killed because of religion way to many. I think of it this way you have your beliefs i got mine when we die we will find out who was right but Blind faith people cant act like that they believe they are right and will go to extreme measures to make you believe them thats why blind faith is dangerous.

Also i believe you shouldnt be punished or have something called a sin unless it truely is a sin heres an example.
Sleeping with a prostitute or sleeping with your neighbors wife are both sins that shouldnt be they
Killing people should be a sin
Beating people should be a sin
being gay should not be sin
abortion should not be a sin
stealing should not be a sin if its for food for a starving family but like stealing a TV or DVD player should be a sin
sex before marriage should not be a sin

so on and so forth i just believe that you should live your life and do the right things and youll be fine. Church is overrated

Money is the root of all evil.

And sure if you consider what was it, thousands of years of scientific opression a good thing then you would be correct.

"Advances in medicine and agriculture have saved vastly more lives than have been lost in all the wars in history."
-Sagan.




I'm not saying you are crazy, it's simply human nature. It is so easy to say "God did it" isn't it? What you just argued does not help your cause. Do not prove faith with scientific method, prove god.

The easy way out? Yay for more stereotypes! Since when does this have anything to do with being "easy" or "hard"? I looked at my life and what events have happened to me so far, explored various religions and lack thereof, and came to the conclusion that I did. I didn't become Christian because it is "easy". It is actually quite offensive that you would make such an asinine assumption.

By the way, you can believe in a higher power and still believe in the Big Bang. Nowhere in any religious text (that I know of) does it clearly state that the Big Bang didn't occur: who is to say that the Big Bang wasn't how said God decided to create stuff?

I never understood why people try to use the Big Bang and evolution as grounds for dismissing a religion. I fully support evolution and am completely open to a Big Bang-type scenario, yet I still believe in a higher power.

This post was edited by bpfergu on Nov 17 2009 12:00pm

You are asking the wrong questions Jer. First we ask the how, then we ask the why (assuming there even is a why).

Where's checky's profile when you need it...Oh puppet where are you????

here it is

Quote (Sioux @ Fri, 22 May 2009, 11:24)
You cannot disprove God with science. Thats like disproving cupcakes are delicious with math.

This post was edited by xnatex21 on Nov 17 2009 12:02pm

It doesn't have to be stated in religious text. I'm not dismissing a higher power, I am dismissing the Christian God.

Excuse me but when you speak of religion being convenient, what do you expect me to say? If you would believe in something because it's convenient that's taking the easy way out. I'm not saying that's why you believe in god, and in fact I never stated you took the easy way out.

The Christian God supposedly created the earth in six days. Oh wait, it took billions of years for the Earth to form O_O cool story bro.

let there be life and there was i thought god made everything appear not set things in motion so they would happen

im just saying

Science is not about disproving anything. It can also be said that science cannot prove God either.
That's a stupid argument.

that was kinda my point