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Jan 11 2026 01:22pm
there are many historical documents. bunch of people get together and decide to make a book that can be carried around so they choose what they think is the best stuff
deciding they are drunk is just a way to feed your bias and is proof what your doing isnt to be taken seriously


There it is, a bunch of people got together and crafted a story book based on what they thought is best not what actually was.

If this perfect all powerful infallible god cannot get the order of the universe straight then how can you even trust the book with a muffin recepie? Sounds to me like it was written by sleepy Joe from 2000 years ago instead.
This isnt just 1 oopsie there are hundreds of these. Clearly a work of man not some omnipotent being.

Take the blinders off Tistuff you would be making 10 bitchute posts by now calling out the inconsistencies if the shoe was on the other foot.
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Jan 11 2026 01:47pm
I will begin with an opening statement that is true:

Romans 5:8
King James Version
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

On the Cross, Jesus said 'it is finished,'
John 19:30
King James Version
30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the Spirit.

Jesus perfectly fulfilled this prophecy:
Isaiah 42:4
King James Version
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.


In the book of Isaiah, Jesus is known as the suffering servant:
Isaiah 53:4-6
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4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.


Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God Jehovah (The Father).

Acts 3:19-26
King James Version
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Proverbs 1
King James Version
1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.


Isaiah 11:2
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2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

Isaiah 61
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61 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.
4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.


1 Corinthians 15:3-4: "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures".




Let's look at some of His teachings:
Matthew 5
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5 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.



These teachings are perfect, righteous, upright and Holy, full of love, grace, and truth.
In them is found reconciliation, restoration, redemption, mercy, compassion, and fellowship with God and with others.


Faith is believing God at His Word. It's not asking Him to prove it over and over again.


I will say this for certain! I LOVE God! Thank You Jesus!



Jesus set me free from drug addiction and from porn. Spending time with Jesus has been and is and always will be absolutely wonderful. God spoke to my heart through His Word, and His Word spoke to my sins. I had been in bondage for over a decade, and God set me free. Praise God.
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Jan 11 2026 03:56pm
There it is, a bunch of people got together and crafted a story book based on what they thought is best not what actually was.

If this perfect all powerful infallible god cannot get the order of the universe straight then how can you even trust the book with a muffin recepie? Sounds to me like it was written by sleepy Joe from 2000 years ago instead.
This isnt just 1 oopsie there are hundreds of these. Clearly a work of man not some omnipotent being.

Take the blinders off Tistuff you would be making 10 bitchute posts by now calling out the inconsistencies if the shoe was on the other foot.


its a "story" made from historical documents from a time frame spanning about 1500 years. nothing else in the world come even close to its uniqueness.
that 'disbelievers spend so much time disparaging it instead of being in a position of some kind of awe. is just more evidence that its authentic.

seriously? a muffin recipe is part of your argument?

reminds me of hitchens. never a more nasty character who would just moan all the time. a christian asked him. "have you ever found anything good in the bible" he just sat there dumfounded.
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Jan 11 2026 05:17pm
its a "story" made from historical documents from a time frame spanning about 1500 years. nothing else in the world come even close to its uniqueness.
that 'disbelievers spend so much time disparaging it instead of being in a position of some kind of awe. is just more evidence that its authentic.

seriously? a muffin recipe is part of your argument?

reminds me of hitchens. never a more nasty character who would just moan all the time. a christian asked him. "have you ever found anything good in the bible" he just sat there dumfounded.


You completely dismissed the point and went straight to yea but... it's soo unique and old....like Hitchens he is a nasty guy.. bla bla

Until you can honestly address the fact that your book gives 2 different accounts of creation order you cannot call it a work of an intelligent, perfect, omnipotent being. It's fictitious work of men who tried to sound smart and profound but made numerous errors and contradictions along the way.

You can't just glaze over the obvious mistakes and only focus on the good parts. Let's be honest it's not written by God it's just another man made fiction. Unique and complex yes, but obviously fiction
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Jan 11 2026 05:42pm
Sure some things cannot be proven at least not with our current technology but some things can be proven or disproven very easily. You have done a very poor job presenting any substantial evidence.

A letter a century or more after the so called Jesus which briefly mentions there are Christians around doesn't provide proof of the so called jesus, all it says is there were a religious following (which no one is disputing here). How can this pass as credible evidence in any self respecting person or in a court of law.

Your bar for accepting magic and magical stories is extremely low if all it takes is a mention from a letter over a century.
With such strong blinders no wonder people fall for these scams.

Also how convenient for jesus to show up but only after you die. How do I know other than to take you at your word?
I am treating you like I would any other one of thousands who claim their god is real and all i am getting is a bunch of personal anecdotes, just trust me bro and circumstantial evidence at best.

Step it up or admit you don't have a strong case. Try being objective as if you never heard of christianity and you had to evaluate it as if it was a murder case and all evidence had to be rock solid before you can make a verdict


I don’t get your "trust me bro" argument.

You literally made a thread saying something isn't real and you aren't posting any proof for your stance. Your post is literally a "trust me bro"

Stop being so hypocritical.

Also Jesus doesn't just show after you die, every new creation experiences the holy spirit.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Jan 11 2026 05:42pm
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Jan 11 2026 06:51pm
You are simply looking for something "flesh" or "physical" to change your belief. That's blind faith. You are honestly projecting your own belief and applying it to me. I don't walk by blind faith as I've witnessed his goodness and know his truth. The world around you is proof of a creator. Your soul is proof of a creator. Again life did not start from nothing and your whole thread is you saying "trust me bro he's not real" when there is plenty of evidence that creation came from a creator and their are documents that verify the existence of Jesus.

There's a part of you that struggles with this subject. It's sad to see you have hated for something you never discovered. God isn't the issue for your life and how you live it. You'll continue to have that void and only one thing will truly fill it.

You'll meet Jesus in person one day, you'll believe it then.


Hopefully he gets a selfie when he meets Jesus in person like you didn't do for some reason.
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Jan 11 2026 06:55pm
You completely dismissed the point and went straight to yea but... it's soo unique and old....like Hitchens he is a nasty guy.. bla bla

Until you can honestly address the fact that your book gives 2 different accounts of creation order you cannot call it a work of an intelligent, perfect, omnipotent being. It's fictitious work of men who tried to sound smart and profound but made numerous errors and contradictions along the way.

You can't just glaze over the obvious mistakes and only focus on the good parts. Let's be honest it's not written by God it's just another man made fiction. Unique and complex yes, but obviously fiction


you insist on not understanding how the book came to be. its not "a" book its 66 books written over a period of about 1500 years and they all come together and make one harmonious story and thats some crazy chit being a believer or not a believer

eye witness accounts of the sinking of the titanic. one witness said the ship broke in two and sank. another witness said it sank intact. using you 'logic we must then conclude there was no ship

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Jan 11 2026 07:48pm
I don’t get your "trust me bro" argument.

You literally made a thread saying something isn't real and you aren't posting any proof for your stance. Your post is literally a "trust me bro"

Stop being so hypocritical.

Also Jesus doesn't just show after you die, every new creation experiences the holy spirit.


"Trust me bro" is just another way to say the evidence is purely based on a written or oral statement where all you can do is take them at their word.

If I said the other day I've seen Bigfoot riding a unicorn through the forrest does this qualify as valid evidence? Just trust me bro he is real, all you need is faith, just believe in him and if you can't see him that means you never have faith. But don't worry you will meet Bigfoot when you die...

Just applying the same logic but substituting Jesus for Bigfoot.

I made a thread pointing out how fake Christian religion is and showing you how absurd it is through numerous errors, contradictions and faulty logic.
If you admitted that it is a fake/metaphorical story then I wouldn't have to make a thread denying it.
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Jan 11 2026 08:01pm
you insist on not understanding how the book came to be. its not "a" book its 66 books written over a period of about 1500 years and they all come together and make one harmonious story and thats some crazy chit being a believer or not a believer

eye witness accounts of the sinking of the titanic. one witness said the ship broke in two and sank. another witness said it sank intact. using you 'logic we must then conclude there was no ship


You are still not acknowledging the fact there are two contradictory creation stories. Doesn't matter how many books or how unique or how long it took to write it.

If this is a work of a perfect, infallible and omnipotent being there would be 0 mistakes and 0 contradictions.
If this is a work of mortal men then it doesn't matter anyway its just another bedtime story and can have 1000's of mistakes.

Clearly it is the latter and no amount glazing will change it.

Either it's written by sleepy Jesus who isn't as perfect or intelligent as he claims or it's written by regular men.

Pick one
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Jan 11 2026 08:06pm
You are still not acknowledging the fact there are two contradictory creation stories. Doesn't matter how many books or how unique or how long it took to write it.

If this is a work of a perfect, infallible and omnipotent being there would be 0 mistakes and 0 contradictions.
If this is a work of mortal men then it doesn't matter anyway its just another bedtime story and can have 1000's of mistakes.

Clearly it is the latter and no amount glazing will change it.

Either it's written by sleepy Jesus who isn't as perfect or intelligent as he claims or it's written by regular men.

Pick one


It doesn't have any mistakes/contradictions. What you are experiencing is a lack of understanding, which is completely normal given you are lost and don't know Jesus.
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