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Oct 5 2025 06:22pm
The Native Americans are the true Americans. You are referring to civilisation, which was brought by the British Empire, and the founding of the United States, which was done by those of British descent.

Britain brought civilisation to much of the world, but that doesn't make its descendants entitled to the land they took.

White Americans today are a melting pot of WASPs, Italians, Irish, German, Eastern Europeans...they are not descendants of those who brought civilisation or who founded the United States.

European countries can legitimately claim that their citizens should only be those descended from their countries, but "White Americans" have no claim to anything.


Hey... winner takes all.
If one day it so happens that the Hamas Palestinians managed to "win" and get rid of the Jews and they start crying about Human rights and how Israel is their Ancestral home and it is written in the Bible or Torah... I am just going to laugh at them.

I mean at the end of the day, the current Israelis are being drop shipped into that area after WW2, to be honest , they don't belong there really. But since they are there and nobody complain or at the very least the US government and EU government were backing them , it is what it is and they own it. :P

United States is a conquered land and I have no problem with it, it happened quite a while ago. What irks me is the US government keep crying about human rights and other countries while they sit on invaded land :lol:

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 5 2025 06:25pm
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Oct 5 2025 06:31pm


Lol

"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that." -Abraham Lincoln

Yeah, saving the union was his goal and in his estimation freeing all slaves served that end, which is why he did that.

You could at least admit you were wrong about the last piece of nonsense you posted before tearing a new quote out of context tho
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Oct 5 2025 06:33pm
Lol

"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that." -Abraham Lincoln

Yeah, saving the union was his goal and in his estimation freeing all slaves served that end, which is why he did that.

You could at least admit you were wrong about the last piece of nonsense you posted before tearing a new quote out of context tho


Nothing out of context at all and also proves the civil war wasn't about slavery.
If it was, the war would have ended the second he said that.
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Oct 5 2025 06:39pm
Nothing out of context at all and also proves the civil war wasn't about slavery.
If it was, the war would have ended the second he said that.


Yeah, you're right the civil war was not about slavery, it was about States' rights...

States' rights to own slaves.

Here's the final line from the letter you quoted,

"I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free." -Abraham Lincoln
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Oct 5 2025 06:46pm
Yeah, you're right the civil war was not about slavery, it was about States' rights...

States' rights to own slaves.

Here's the final line from the letter you quoted,

"I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free." -Abraham Lincoln


Wrong again and again.
The civil war was due to northern aggression and that is all.
If them damn yankees hadn't come, there never would have been a war.
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Oct 5 2025 07:14pm
Wrong again and again.
The civil war was due to northern aggression and that is all.
If them damn yankees hadn't come, there never would have been a war.


Without the war there wouldn't be a union either.

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Oct 5 2025 07:42pm
Without the war there wouldn't be a union either.


Agreed and I truly lament the south wasn't allowed to leave or didn't have the resources/manpower to win.
This has nothing to do with slavery.
Slavery requires a proximity I find unacceptable.
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Oct 5 2025 07:54pm
Agreed and I truly lament the south wasn't allowed to leave or didn't have the resources/manpower to win.
This has nothing to do with slavery.
Slavery requires a proximity I find unacceptable.


You don't have the right to secede. You can get on a plane and renounce citizenship if you don't want to be associated with the united states of america. It's in the name.
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Oct 5 2025 10:20pm
Sure let me just personally deport 30 million people including armed gangs from a huge country

Trust, if I could I would, brother


Wow! Its almost like its not your country.
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Wow! Its almost like its not your country.


It's not my country because I as a random ass guy cannot single-handedly deport 30 million people from a massive country?

This is what you're going with?
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