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Sep 30 2025 08:31am
Give you a hint, the guys who murdered jews in a firebomb attack, murdered jewish staffers in a shooting and did all other sorts of left-wing anti-semitic violence: Were not being radicalized by AIPAC talking points or motivated by the ADL's calls to action.


What where they motivated by?
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Sep 30 2025 01:12pm
(just ignoring that the murderer was maga because facts are boring).


If you stop saying stupid shit like this, you'll be less offputting. Also, you missed the point again. Let's assume that indeed the murderer was "Maga". I didn't deny it, it's the central part of my argument, dingus. I am using quotes and allegedly-adjacent language since the bodies are still warm and factfinding is still ongoing.

I don't believe you're capable of talking with humans.
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Sep 30 2025 01:35pm
I did not miss anything, you explicitly said because the targets were mormons it is more of a leftwing crime (just ignoring that the murderer was maga because facts are boring).

So if the targets are black, we can apply your "logic" and call it more a rightwing crime (ignoring who is the perpretrator in the same way you do). Easy enough to follow for you? Great, so black on black crime is rightwing now.


Huh

When something is 'more likely' it's based on statistics

And an outlier does not disprove the likeliness
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Sep 30 2025 05:16pm
The United States has been overwhelming Christian since its founding. The founders openly quoted scripture. The political power of Christianity is a shadow of its former self, and the country is still ~70% Christian. The notion that there's a conspiracy to install Christianity as the nation's defacto religion is ridiculous. It already is.


Factually incorrect. Specifically stated parts within the constitution to avoid combining church and state derp

Treaty of Tripoli (1797): Ratified unanimously by the Senate and signed by President John Adams, this treaty with the Barbary States included a key clause: "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion". The clause was meant to reassure a Muslim nation that the U.S. government was secular and would not use religion as a basis for conflict.

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Factually incorrect. Specifically stated parts within the constitution to avoid combining church and state derp

Treaty of Tripoli (1797): Ratified unanimously by the Senate and signed by President John Adams, this treaty with the Barbary States included a key clause: "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion". The clause was meant to reassure a Muslim nation that the U.S. government was secular and would not use religion as a basis for conflict.


Chew on this, there where official state religions.
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Factually incorrect. Specifically stated parts within the constitution to avoid combining church and state derp

Treaty of Tripoli (1797): Ratified unanimously by the Senate and signed by President John Adams, this treaty with the Barbary States included a key clause: "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion". The clause was meant to reassure a Muslim nation that the U.S. government was secular and would not use religion as a basis for conflict.


Historically I don't think you could find a worse example than the treaty of tripoli to cite as precedent, probably worse than dred scott. A treaty signed under duress as tribute to a hostile foreign power to pacify them as their pirates raided our shipping for plunder and slaves and hostages for ransom. A treaty we formally dissolved by building a war fleet and kicking their asses oo-rah. And a treaty that did not actually contain the phrase you cited in its arabic text,
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