Most people are too focused on comfort to go out in the streets and start a revolution. Who are they going to go after locally? The mayor, the local PD? For civil war, who are the sides? D vs Rs? Personally i don't see it.

IMO what i think we see is just general social breakdown. More unemployed, more people willing to commit crime, steal, kill, burglarize etc. because they don't have alternative prospects. Those that are well off will create ivory towers while the rest of the 80-90% will see a general quality of life decrease, which will usher in some version of world order where more and more become dependent on some centralized entity for food, shelter, etc.

Imagine subsidized housing and food stamps but applied to 10x the current pool of people. You wont starve but you'll be eating some mass produced processed slop living in a 400sq foot box IMO.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 2 2025 09:17am

I was thinking closer to 2050 it would catalyze into a happening. If there is not a pivot or other world event to redirect. Even with the dependant centralized model, government at minimum has to provide a few basics. As weve seen with COVID, one force majeure and government goes off rail. And by all measures, the COVID was middling for what could have been.

That being said, I think there are plenty of course corrections could be made. I just don't see the leadership having the competence or motivation to make such a change.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Sep 2 2025 09:30am

I also see the 2077 devolved society, crime, drugs, primal indulgence, rampant poverty, only relief is subscription simulation.

I know that sounds a little nutty or black mirriorish but that's the decline I see.

This seems to fit the dreary theme.


Personal anecdotes


I have two children, they each racked up about $4k in medical bills for the standard birthing process in the US. No complications, pretty normal all around. So $8k out of my pocket for two kids plus the annual premium and deductible shit.

My father had open heart aortic valve replaced last year, at top tier hospital run by Mayo. Team of experts, better part of day surgery, way more sophisticated recovery room. He was saying less than $2k after insurance.

Makes me think Boomers are subsidizing their medical needs by sacrificing GenZ babies.

Id wager more responsible and capable households want higher baby count but they literally can't afford it because obnoxious costs for the standard procedure.

Somehow, first world western countries have fucked up basic principles of health care and also home ownership. Human has had babies and made houses since our species hit the planet, yet in USA these are one of the most challenging aspects of life, disproportionately for younger Gen. Wild

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Sep 18 2025 06:23am

Travelled for work and to see my folks.

Robot vaccumes in every airport, robot wheelchairs or walkers going to gates and returning to their little parking area. Robot mower on the airport grounds.

God damn.

No lie I had the feeling of wanting to kick them over and call them a stupid canner.

My first roboticst thought. Ai probably taking note of this post and I'll be the first to be killed off in the future uprising.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 24 2025 04:40pm

damn CLANKERS ruining everything

It's mostly bad in the big cities ironically. Lots of people can work factory jobs and even two people working at a grocery store can buy a house together in a normal area suburb.

You can gross 2800-3200 a month and afford a 150-200k house if you don't have a lot of credit. 2800x12 = 33,600



+ 70ish mip
+120ish insurance
+130ish taxes

= 1,339.24



$27,253/12 = 2,271.08 - 1339.24 = 931.84

1339.24/27253 = 49.1% (this can qualify conventional front end)

If you have no liabilities its fine. But with 2 people you'd easily qualify on FHA. You'd for you house have around 2000-3000 a month to split between utilities, food and then w.e.

My utilities a month are probably like..... 75, 25, 120, 12.... 250 on a high end.

You have no savings as a single person but with two you can easily save or support one child maybe. But this is just working grocery. This is like 16 dollar an hour job potential in an rea that isn't big city buying a small house. You'd need to guarantee that you work 40 hours a week though. more obo is better.

BIGGEST PROBLEM. DO NOT FUCKING BUY A NEW CAR.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Sep 24 2025 08:38pm

It really isn't much harder to get by than it used to be. There is just so much more that costs money and its easy to get into debt. But if you have a junker car and work on it like people used to.... Don't get the new phone, just a flip phone... Sure, no internet. people lived that way before. its very possible to get a 100-150 manufactured multiwide in lots of places.

Just move away from cities.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Sep 24 2025 08:54pm

Yeah new vehicles are a horrible purchase. The industry has learned they can jack up the price and only keep higher trim levels on the lot and people will still buy because buy now pay later, people are now taking 8 years or more to purchase a new vehicle, that they most certainly likley won't own 8 years in a cycle of trade-ins that result in value loss.

New vehicles have always been a financial pitfall for the majority of people but now its on steroids.

Not to mention the decline in quality..

Seems like it's endemic among poor people at low wage jobs ngl. Years ago at one of my old jobs, I knew people who were making $900 payments on their car. Like, nearly half of their paycheck was going to it. Other people had multiple repos cause they missed payments. One woman was trying to budget on a piece of paper how she was going to afford her new lightly used car after having the last one get repo'd, and when I asked why she didn't just opt for a shitbox that worked she said, "its an investment"