Why do you think you possess any knowledge or credibility about a subject to put yourself in the same line as the "scientists" while talking to one? You were an unpaid intern for an insurance company 15 years ago so you know more about climatology than all the engineers at the corps and all the climatologists at the NWS and NOAA.

You want this to be a policy discussion, so you need to answer, what kinds of policies do you think would make a difference? Global warming was not a remotely relevant factor. First it was below average temperatures in Texas, and you'd need to make a whole bunch of leaps and assumptions about this storm system, whether it could have been cooler and carried less precipitation, and that such a storm wouldn't have been slower moving and dropped the same total amount- the kind of detail our models find impossible to predict with any certainty. Even if you make those wild assumptions, you wind up with a temperature difference of 2F, which is at most 7% more precipition in a probable maximum flood and a flood with a 26 foot crest might have otherwise been 24 foot crest, nevermind the naive math given the shape of a valley producing more a tapered volume. Either way it means absolutely dick all to people who live in 10-12 ft tall trailer homes. The only difference between a 24 and 26 foot flood is how far away we find the corpses

Do you think its a failure of warnings and predictions? There is no model remotely capable of predicting the granular details of rainfall and figuring out exactly when and where flooding will occur. Storms are chaotic and the human race is far closer to the geoengineering to control global weather than the predictive models to know the exact details of weather in advance. The best the NWS can do is the best anyone can do: Give alerts and warnings for the potential counties to be impacted by floods, storms, tornadoes, etc, and then use sensors and gauges on the ground during a storm to identify a flood when its started and warn residents of the imminent danger. The only thing they didn't have was sirens, which probably would have made zero difference anyway in the middle of the night during a storm as people slept in their homes.

Gee it feels almost like you have no actual underlying complaint nor ideas to improve the world and just want to climb atop the bodies of those kids to harangue people you oppose politically. In the old days you could just say the gods have voiced their displeasure at the heathens and we all need to repent and pay you tithes

this thread is basically an alex jones rant on dead kids graves.

i watched a supercut of all of the area's meteorologists reports the day before and even day of and NONE of them (who's job and professional reputation hinges on predicting such events) forecast this level of flooding nor rainfall.

so a bunch of people who's literal purpose on earth is to predict the weather missed it, but some alert sent out would have given people time to find high ground in a matter of minutes in the middle of the night with a bunch of girls in tow? hell some people couldnt get out of the way in literal cars, they just got swept off with no notice. watching the radar recap there was an irregular pattern in in the storm where a red blob of insane precipitation just sat in a single area without moving.

spam topics are one thing OP but this ones just yucky.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 7 2025 08:06am

I know you miss those days, luckily today we are smarter. Just to be clear:
- you are a scientist with a degree of some sorts and a specialization in climate? I.e. you publish articles and they are at least tangentially related here?
- your argument is: this event could not have been influenced by climate change because it was colder than average at the day?

Two yes and no answers suffice, thanks.

Also because its fun and I already linked it like a single post ago:

The only thing they didn't have was sirens, which probably would have made zero difference anyway in the middle of the night during a storm as people slept in their homes.

This was actually one of the consequences from the flood in germany, using peoples smartphone as a siren without them having to install an app. Would have for sure saved multiple lifes in 2021 and most probably some lifes here, so maybe there actually was something that could have been done? Shocking

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Jul 7 2025 08:42am

Teaching my kids the right things to do is an ongoing process yes.

Should I scream at them in blind hatred for uncontrollable circumstances and blame them for it?

No.

Better than crying about tarrifs

any emergency crews denying aid to democrats?

Well best of luck trying to teach online trolls. You have quite the daunting task ahead, especially when they're given dozens of posts of exactly the reaction they want.

God's speed. Also since I might have missed it but thoughts and prayers and such!

It's the sum of all climate events that has risen and the Intensity aswell. Just like forecast by scientists. If you want to analyze local events It's going to be much harder. But if you watch all events you can definitely draw conclusions.

We already have that. Its called a Wireless Emergency Alert. They already did it, they sent a message at 1:14 AM to everyone's cell phones, warning them of catastrophic flooding in Kerr county three hours prior to the flood occurring between 4 and 6 am. Its already been mentioned repeatedly in this thread.
I think this returns to;

democrat emergency crew " u have to put a mask on or we cant save you"