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Jun 19 2025 09:11am
There is nothing in your post that i disagree with, well apart from the term genocide. the word genocide is tricky noting it is, on this website, and around the world, a subjective term with people having a different view as to its meaning. What is happening in Gaza fits the literal interpretation of the word, but there is a strong argument, from the Pro-Israeli voice, that if they wanted to commit genocide they would have wiped out everyone in Gaza.

Ultimately the population of gaza was 2.1? million. estimates suggest less then 100,000 have been killed (when Israel has the capability to kill all of them). I tend to agree that we should not use the term genocide noting its a spectrum and a highly divisive word.


agreed, genocide should be used the same way "premeditated" is used in terms of murder. it's an intent based term, with further context of results.

if you killed a noteworthy %, but didnt intend to, you're not guilty of genocide.

if you didn't kill a noteworthy %, but did intend to, you're not guilty of genocide.

if you killed a noteworthy %, and did intend to, you're guilty of genocide.

israel may have genocidal desires, but doesnt appear to have genocidal intent, and doesnt produce genocidal results in terms of death or even dismemberment/injury. its also best to keep this contentious term in the realm of death and dismemberment, because things like "cultural genocide" are better left as tertiary context to differentiate rather than the core evidence of guilt. like if i sought to eliminate all Irish imagery and customs from Ireland, but didnt kill a single person, am i guilty of genocide? i tend to say no, because the word doesnt typically mean that in common nomenclature.
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Jun 19 2025 09:13am
There is nothing in your post that i disagree with, well apart from the term genocide. the word genocide is tricky noting it is, on this website, and around the world, a subjective term with people having a different view as to its meaning. What is happening in Gaza fits the literal interpretation of the word, but there is a strong argument, from the Pro-Israeli voice, that if they wanted to commit genocide they would have wiped out everyone in Gaza.

Ultimately the population of gaza was 2.1? million. estimates suggest less then 100,000 have been killed (when Israel has the capability to kill all of them). I tend to agree that we should not use the term genocide noting its a spectrum and a highly divisive word.


I would ultimately agree the term is a bit exaggerated in the current circumstances. It’s the one msm will use though. However it’s not over exaggerating to call it genocide in the case of entire Jewish tribes where cultures are different amongst each one. For instance if the government had wiped out the Numunuu but not the Cherokee they still committed genocide on the Numunuu.

To me.. personally. I think so many emotions are high because of years and years of fighting. As an outsider it seems extreme but I’m not living in the fear both sides must live in regularly. So I try to view it more objectively. I think in the US overall we are blessed that even though msm paints it out to be otherwise we have a pretty understanding and acceptance of cultural diversity for a country that is actually much younger than most around the world.
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Jun 19 2025 10:10am
moving this.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 19 2025 10:11am
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Jun 19 2025 10:48am
I would ultimately agree the term is a bit exaggerated in the current circumstances. It’s the one msm will use though. However it’s not over exaggerating to call it genocide in the case of entire Jewish tribes where cultures are different amongst each one. For instance if the government had wiped out the Numunuu but not the Cherokee they still committed genocide on the Numunuu.

To me.. personally. I think so many emotions are high because of years and years of fighting. As an outsider it seems extreme but I’m not living in the fear both sides must live in regularly. So I try to view it more objectively. I think in the US overall we are blessed that even though msm paints it out to be otherwise we have a pretty understanding and acceptance of cultural diversity for a country that is actually much younger than most around the world.


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Jun 19 2025 10:56am
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Are you unfamiliar with Tribes and how they are all culturally different or did something else I say not make sense to you?
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Are you unfamiliar with Tribes and how they are all culturally different or did something else I say not make sense to you?


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Jun 21 2025 04:34pm
Election fraud, it's in court currently.
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Jun 21 2025 04:41pm
Election fraud, it's in court currently.


I’d be interested in that article! Seems fascinating.
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Jun 21 2025 05:08pm
I’d be interested in that article! Seems fascinating.


I made a thread about it.
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Harris lost cause she wasn't very good, even with MSM shielding her... the people could still see the BS.
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