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Ill make a step by step thought process and you can tell me from which point on we disagree:

1. Putin needlessly attacked Ukraine for his delusions to stay relevant in history
2. Ukraine has no chance to actually militarily win this war
3. If we let Putin get away with profiting from the attack it sends a very clear "military might makes right" message to literally every country in the world.
4. The only possible conclusion from 3. is a worldwide military buildup including nuclear weapons
5. Historically this leads to more tensions and in the end, more war. (See the buildup of e.g. WW1)
6. The only way to avoid this is to show that attacking neighboring countries is not worth it


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It was Putin who invaded Ukraine, not the other way.
Putin wanted to rebuild USSR, possibly Warsaw Pact, also possibly take the whole Europe (we dont know what will Russians decide to do)


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It was Putin who invaded Ukraine, not the other way.
Putin wanted to rebuild USSR, possibly Warsaw Pact, also possibly take the whole Europe (we dont know what will Russians decide to do)


You should pay attention to what actually happened. The facts

Official NATO statement Feb 19 2025 --> https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_37750.htm

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Ukraine’s future is in NATO. Relations between NATO and Ukraine date back to the early 1990s and have since developed into one of the most substantial of NATO’s partnerships.
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Mar 4 2025 09:11am
Let me know when Russia makes progress.



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There is one thing you forget about.
There are two blocs in the world, one of them is liberal, democratic bloc: USA, Europe, Japan.
Another is autocratic: China, Russia, North Korea.
When you give Ukraine to Russia, you lose 25 million people, your enemy gains 25mln people, enemy gains 1mln possible troops, Ukrainian ammo and drone factories and Russia becames USSR again, a powerful country once again.
Its relatively cheap to give arms to Ukrainians, so that NATO has a safe Europe and safe Europe can assist USA when needed. That was Biden politics.
Clearly Donald Trump has another idea, that Europe should pay for its protection, and its understandable as well.


Why is it that the liberal and "democratic" bloc spends the majority of its money fighting against democracy in foreign countries? I don't see China doing that nearly as much as the US or EU.

"Democracy" for me, but not for thee.
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