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Dec 11 2024 10:51am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Dec 11 2024 08:51am)
That's a reason for China.


A war with China is obviously not in the interest of the United States so I'm not sure how avoidance of it should only be in the interest of the Chinese.
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Dec 11 2024 11:01am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 11 2024 10:51am)
A war with China is obviously not in the interest of the United States so I'm not sure how avoidance of it should only be in the interest of the Chinese.


Owning the libs and China takes precedence over anything rational
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Dec 11 2024 11:49am
Quote (MildSambal @ Dec 11 2024 05:01pm)
Owning the libs and China takes precedence over anything rational


Left Coping, Seething, Malding - ✔️Check
Decoupling from China - ⏰ Soon™
Deporting illegal abuela y abuelo - ⏰ Soon™
Gas and Grocery prices coming down - ⏰ Soon™
Ukraine and middle east war ending - ⏰ Soon™

the clock is ticking :lol:
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Dec 11 2024 11:54am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 11 2024 10:51am)
A war with China is obviously not in the interest of the United States so I'm not sure how avoidance of it should only be in the interest of the Chinese.


without china the US struggles, without the US china dies. and pretty quickly too. even in a real trade war if we were to push embargos or massive tariffs China would start to devolve into madness within weeks or months.

now i dont support that level of a trade war let alone a real war, just an answer to your statement. they've always needed us far more than we need them.
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Dec 11 2024 11:55am
Quote (IceMage @ Dec 11 2024 04:51pm)
A war with China is obviously not in the interest of the United States so I'm not sure how avoidance of it should only be in the interest of the Chinese.


I have no clue what both of you are saying but I will outline my view.

the US has decided that China is a threat to its interests.
Threats to US interests are typically managed via coups, economic pressure, proxy conflicts, or direct military engagement, which is why we keep hearing a narrative of a war Between the US and China.

TLDR: there is no threat to the US, China is not able to invade the US, but the US has a inferiority complex ergo it lashes out at everyone around it. This has been going on for decades and is in no way related to Trump.

if Anything, Trump is a good thing, because he is more likely to sanction china in some way, rather then get into a shooting war, such as what Biden tried with Russia. repeatedly.
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Dec 11 2024 11:58am
Quote (Mondain @ Dec 11 2024 11:49am)
Left Coping, Seething, Malding - ✔️Check
Decoupling from China - ⏰ Soon™
Deporting illegal abuela y abuelo - ⏰ Soon™
Gas and Grocery prices coming down - ⏰ Soon™
Ukraine and middle east war ending - ⏰ Soon™

the clock is ticking :lol:


Just curious why you want other people to suffer? I want you, our communities, and our country to prosper and I don't care who gets credit for it

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Dec 11 2024 11:59am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2024 11:54am)
without china the US struggles, without the US china dies. and pretty quickly too. even in a real trade war if we were to push embargos or massive tariffs China would start to devolve into madness within weeks or months.

now i dont support that level of a trade war let alone a real war, just an answer to your statement. they've always needed us far more than we need them.


China is drastically reducing trade with the USA, if they are so reliant on the USA for trade why is this happening right now?
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Dec 11 2024 12:07pm
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China is drastically reducing trade with the USA, if they are so reliant on the USA for trade why is this happening right now?


be more specific and maybe i can answer.
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Dec 11 2024 12:29pm
Quote (MildSambal @ Dec 11 2024 09:59am)
China is drastically reducing trade with the USA, if they are so reliant on the USA for trade why is this happening right now?


China imports their food from the USA.

It's categorically correct that China dies without the US
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Dec 11 2024 12:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2024 12:07pm)
be more specific and maybe i can answer.


Soybeans from the US to China down from 40% of Chinas import to 18% with Brazil stepping in as the substitute
US corn has dropped, again Brazil the substitute for 71% of corn
US Integrated Circuits are down over 30%, with various substitutes from Europe and Asia
China started 350 semiconductor projects last year with more on the horizon
China working on chip manufacturing
China now importing most of its liquefied natural gases from Australia, 40% reduction from the US
China has adopted a variety of anti-food waste laws to prevent wastage since 2021
Chinese policymakers have emphasized since 2022 imports of wheat and barley from Russia instead of the US
China dumping US Treasuries

I'll stop there and suffice to say that China is positioning itself to be self-reliant from the US

This post was edited by MildSambal on Dec 11 2024 12:37pm
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