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Oct 16 2024 05:36pm
Quote (Shadowoffury @ 16 Oct 2024 18:10)
what


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Oct 16 2024 05:45pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 15 2024 06:38pm)
https://rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

1 in 6. chances are someone you know or are related to has dealt with it

https://i.imgur.com/qHSORdi.png


you still havent responded to this
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Oct 16 2024 05:48pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 17 2024 10:05am)
"Considering people die of natural causes, I would say murder IS natural"


Dumb analogy.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 16 2024 04:48pm)
Dumb analogy.


your analogy not mine..
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Oct 16 2024 07:02pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 16 Oct 2024 19:45)
^ryvulet you still havent responded to this


Not sure what you want me to say, probably better now than before which is scary; wonder what the breakdown between attempted and actual assault are.
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Oct 16 2024 07:28pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Oct 16 2024 06:02pm)
Not sure what you want me to say, probably better now than before which is scary; wonder what the breakdown between attempted and actual assault are.


I expected a "wow, thats a lot worse than i thought. maybe I should be more empathetic to women in general" kind of response.

do you think victims of rape should have to suffer through 9 months of (sometimes irreversible) hell instead of having autonomy over their physical and mental integrity?
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Oct 16 2024 07:31pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 16 Oct 2024 21:28)
I expected a "wow, thats a lot worse than i thought. maybe I should be more empathetic to women in general" kind of response.

do you think victims of rape should have to suffer through 9 months of (sometimes irreversible) hell instead of having autonomy over their physical and mental integrity?


that stat isn't intercourse rape, but sexual assault and attempted sexual assult. Not to explain anything away, but did you not see my response prior? I think I listed rape in one of the potential reasons abortion could be used for, although other potential alternatives are possible too.
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Oct 16 2024 07:33pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Oct 16 2024 06:31pm)
that stat isn't intercourse rape, but sexual assault and attempted sexual assult. Not to explain anything away, but did you not see my response prior? I think I listed rape in one of the potential reasons abortion could be used for, although other potential alternatives are possible too.


of course which is why i asked that question again

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I actually agree that in the scenario it might be allowable, or even potentially a concession where if the mother doesn't want the child in cases of rape that they could be raised in an orphanage or put up for adoption. In case of risk to the mother, I think that is probably the cut case where it should be allowed


you're essentially saying that if the mother's life isnt at risk, she should have the baby and give it up for adoption. i'm asking you if the pregnant victim should have the choice. should she?
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Oct 16 2024 07:36pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 16 Oct 2024 21:33)
of course which is why i asked that question again



you're essentially saying that if the mother's life isnt at risk, she should have the baby and give it up for adoption. i'm asking you if the pregnant victim should have the choice. should she?


I think its a scenario where it could be considered, I'm not an expert to nkow the impact on the mother to be raped and then also to abort a child. couldn't that potentially be worse?

I don't like that people automatically assume its a situation that provides relief from a situation without any potential for mental trauma.

This post was edited by Ryvulet on Oct 16 2024 07:37pm
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Oct 16 2024 07:42pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Oct 16 2024 06:36pm)
I think its a scenario where it could be considered, I'm not an expert to nkow the impact on the mother to be raped and then also to abort a child. couldn't that potentially be worse?

I don't like that people automatically assume its a situation that provides relief from a situation without any potential for mental trauma.


all Im asking is if you think that potential mother should alone be making that choice instead of the government deciding for her
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