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Sep 19 2024 07:38pm
Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 06:33pm)
Disagree. The vast majority of people at the time of the holocaust knew of the evils perpetrated by the nazis were horrendous. You don't need Christian moral law >Which is laughably immortal by any standard of the past century. > a hand full of nazis do not dictate natural human tendency toward Good mortality


they knew it was horrendous because they were compelled by objective christian morality

there is no consistent moral standard if you do not believe in an objective one, such as morality of the bible the west is founded upon. you can completely morally justify the holocaust or the murders of communist regimes through your morality standard of moral relativism.

christian law is not immoral compared to moral relativism of the past century
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Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 09:30pm)
My evidence is the fact our Constituent cells/molecules were naturally formed in the early years of earth's formation, a natural process.

My evidence is the fact of natural planetary formation due to natural processes not a supernatural one.

My Evidence is the fact that 0 gods have ever revealed themselves in z fashion which would be tirelessly apparent.


So you think because evolution is real no god can possibly exist? You should read Spinoza or countless other geniuses throughout history that have wrestled with this problem much more capably than you are doing.

You have failed to prove that no god exists. If you have any evidence I’d still love to hear it tho, seriously. Disprove the prime mover, maybe you’ll be the first person to do it. It would be very helpful to me if you could pull it off.
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Sep 19 2024 07:46pm
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they knew it was horrendous because they were compelled by objective christian morality

there is no consistent moral standard if you do not believe in an objective one, such as morality of the bible the west is founded upon. you can completely morally justify the holocaust or the murders of communist regimes through your morality standard of moral relativism.

christian law is not immoral compared to moral relativism of the past century


We will simply not come to terms, as Christian moral code as related to us from the Bible is horrible by any standard. Especially by today's.
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 19 2024 08:45pm)
So you think because evolution is real no god can possibly exist? You should read Spinoza or countless other geniuses throughout history that have wrestled with this problem much more capably than you are doing.

You have failed to prove that no god exists. If you have any evidence I’d still love to hear it tho, seriously. Disprove the prime mover, maybe you’ll be the first person to do it. It would be very helpful to me if you could pull it off.


I never claimed to be a genius. Those geniuses came away more often than not non believers in any deity.
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So you think because evolution is real no god can possibly exist? You should read Spinoza or countless other geniuses throughout history that have wrestled with this problem much more capably than you are doing.

You have failed to prove that no god exists. If you have any evidence I’d still love to hear it tho, seriously. Disprove the prime mover, maybe you’ll be the first person to do it. It would be very helpful to me if you could pull it off.




You obviously are not interested in any evidence. Your demeanor says that quite clearly.

This post was edited by ScionCapital on Sep 19 2024 07:50pm
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We will simply not come to terms, as Christian moral code as related to us from the Bible is horrible by any standard. Especially by today's.


i accept your capitulation
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Sep 19 2024 07:53pm
Quote (majorblood @ Sep 19 2024 08:38pm)
they knew it was horrendous because they were compelled by objective christian morality

there is no consistent moral standard if you do not believe in an objective one, such as morality of the bible the west is founded upon. you can completely morally justify the holocaust or the murders of communist regimes through your morality standard of moral relativism.

christian law is not immoral compared to moral relativism of the past century


A moral code By your own Insinuation must be Absolute. If christian gods Moral code is less than ours of today it shows quite clearly it lacks substance as 90% Christians don't adhere to this code
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i accept your capitulation


Thank you.
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Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 06:53pm)
A moral code By your own Insinuation must be Absolute. If christian gods Moral code is less than ours of today it shows quite clearly it lacks substance as 90% Christians don't adhere to this code


what do you mean by 'If christian gods Moral code is less than ours of today'?

christians sin yes, but your argument here is nonsensical
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Christianity is the only worldview that openly recognizes and is cognizant of the fact that humans are intrinsically bad

Total
Depravity

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