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Aug 22 2024 08:47am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 21 2024 02:23pm)
Their content is consumed though by everyday conservatives. To what extent, I'm not sure, and is why I'm inquiring.


"everyday conservatives" watch fox news, or zero news. the people who watch charlie kirk, shapiro, milo, dave rubin, crowder, etc. Are millennial and gen z edgelord maga conservatives. for them its mostly a sport like activity, they just want to see people take big swings and arguments to get contentious and personal. its verbal UFC. i think the appeal is that they think they're one encounter with a deranged leftist away from dropping facts and being the hero. no one watches UFC and thinks they can choke out a real fighter unless they're an idiot. its a high stakes event anyone can find themselves in.

even so in that context what should be done? you're on a stage as a conservative hack grifter, there's a line of 200 people, the first 150 of them come up and call you a nazi facist racist transphobe piece of shit. these are all standard leftist white kids closer to hippies than productive members of society. then along comes a literal trans person, you think that makes them mentally ill but they're also clearly mentally ill in truth. you can see the depression and issues they've dealt with all their life right on their face. they're insulting you, telling you you're the reason so many of their friends killed themselves, you're a label that should make you feel like committing suicide, etc. you just what? offer grace because they voluntarily got in line to insult you? you give them a pass as 150 of their like minded peers pretend they just OWNED you? i dont think it works out in practice given the actual context of your OP.
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"everyday conservatives" watch fox news, or zero news. the people who watch charlie kirk, shapiro, milo, dave rubin, crowder, etc. Are millennial and gen z edgelord maga conservatives. for them its mostly a sport like activity, they just want to see people take big swings and arguments to get contentious and personal. its verbal UFC. i think the appeal is that they think they're one encounter with a deranged leftist away from dropping facts and being the hero. no one watches UFC and thinks they can choke out a real fighter unless they're an idiot. its a high stakes event anyone can find themselves in.

even so in that context what should be done? you're on a stage as a conservative hack grifter, there's a line of 200 people, the first 150 of them come up and call you a nazi facist racist transphobe piece of shit. these are all standard leftist white kids closer to hippies than productive members of society. then along comes a literal trans person, you think that makes them mentally ill but they're also clearly mentally ill in truth. you can see the depression and issues they've dealt with all their life right on their face. they're insulting you, telling you you're the reason so many of their friends killed themselves, you're a label that should make you feel like committing suicide, etc. you just what? offer grace because they voluntarily got in line to insult you? you give them a pass as 150 of their like minded peers pretend they just OWNED you? i dont think it works out in practice given the actual context of your OP.


I know plenty of "regular" conservatives being from the Bible belt and also living in a bible belt state right now, working with mostly conservatives at my job. Alot of them consumed tucker Carlson religiously and tucker pipelined them into daily wire and stuff. You can't just write of the ridiculously strong pull of far right political speakers as " only reaching the youngins who are on those gat dang computrons all the gat dang day" because even boomers have cell phones with youtube, I fucking hear them watching shorts reels on breaks every day.

Also, you are very hard leaning on the nonsensical trans suicide talking point and I think that's funny that your hypotheticals are trying to assert it as fact. The reality is that these far right mouthpieces are spewing hate towards trans people causing our lives to be less and less fun to live out in the world, which can contribute to depression but simply being trans doesn't mean you are mentally ill. Jesus fucking Christ stop typing lol
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I know plenty of "regular" conservatives being from the Bible belt and also living in a bible belt state right now, working with mostly conservatives at my job. Alot of them consumed tucker Carlson religiously and tucker pipelined them into daily wire and stuff. You can't just write of the ridiculously strong pull of far right political speakers as " only reaching the youngins who are on those gat dang computrons all the gat dang day" because even boomers have cell phones with youtube, I fucking hear them watching shorts reels on breaks every day.

Also, you are very hard leaning on the nonsensical trans suicide talking point and I think that's funny that your hypotheticals are trying to assert it as fact. The reality is that these far right mouthpieces are spewing hate towards trans people causing our lives to be less and less fun to live out in the world, which can contribute to depression but simply being trans doesn't mean you are mentally ill. Jesus fucking Christ stop typing lol


The violent, angry, swearing, etc. response to any criticism about transgenderism doesn't exactly support the notion that male-to-female transgender people are truly women - it supports the notion that they are emotional angry men

I've noticed this ALOT with mtf transgenders, most recently in Elon Musk's child's online rant - this is not the behaviour of a lady, its the behaviour of an angry sexually frustrated man
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The violent, angry, swearing, etc. response to any criticism about transgenderism doesn't exactly support the notion that male-to-female transgender people are truly women - it supports the notion that they are emotional angry men

I've noticed this ALOT with mtf transgenders, most recently in Elon Musk's child's online rant - this is not the behaviour of a lady, its the behaviour of an angry sexually frustrated man


How can we forget all the violence they launched at TERFS, because the women wanted nothing to do with men who make transvestism their sexual fetish.
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Quote (PapaPsych @ Aug 22 2024 02:33pm)
How can we forget all the violence they launched at TERFS, because the women wanted nothing to do with men who make transvestism their sexual fetish.


Violence and them go together like peanut butter and toast. The pipeline generally goes like this: sexually frustrated young low T man -> becomes addicted to gooning all day to porn, loss of sexual function -> porn consumption has overtaken the brain, causing them to require it every waking hour, become autogynephilic to support the addiction, touching themselves all day -> eventually require validation from others to goon (what they call "euphoria") -> violently lash out when that validation is denied because it's basically like someone stealing your wife

the point of failure is turning to pornography, when the pathway of sexually frustrated young low T man is instead remedied by lifting weights & eating more meat and eggs, and turning your focus to service of others instead of yourself

Another point to note here is that transgender people are rarely encountered in public because they, for the most part, are full-time shut-ins who live on the internet and don't work. Sometimes you'll see what you think is one serving you at Starbucks or somewhere, literally no one cares, I treat all strangers with respect

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The violent, angry, swearing, etc. response to any criticism about transgenderism doesn't exactly support the notion that male-to-female transgender people are truly women - it supports the notion that they are emotional angry men

I've noticed this ALOT with mtf transgenders, most recently in Elon Musk's child's online rant - this is not the behaviour of a lady, its the behaviour of an angry sexually frustrated man


In what way was I being violent?? Lol you are reading way too hard into what I said to try and further your blatantly insane narrative
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Quote (hopkinz @ Aug 21 2024 02:33am)
My approach to transgender individuals in public spaces often focuses on concerns about privacy, safety, and maintaining traditional gender norms. I might argue for segregating facilities based on biological sex rather than gender identity, I fear open policies could compromise others' comfort and safety.

As a compromise, I would support the creation of gender-neutral, single-occupancy restrooms or changing rooms. This solution aims to respect the privacy and comfort of everyone, providing a balanced approach that accommodates the needs of transgender individuals without conflicting with traditional norms.

- A Right leaning Canadian.


Would you require everyone to queue up for a karyotype test before entering a public space? Lots of burst bladders and shit pants if we take that route, I assume.
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Aug 23 2024 06:05am
Quote (blahaj @ Aug 22 2024 04:07pm)
I know plenty of "regular" conservatives being from the Bible belt and also living in a bible belt state right now, working with mostly conservatives at my job. Alot of them consumed tucker Carlson religiously and tucker pipelined them into daily wire and stuff. You can't just write of the ridiculously strong pull of far right political speakers as " only reaching the youngins who are on those gat dang computrons all the gat dang day" because even boomers have cell phones with youtube, I fucking hear them watching shorts reels on breaks every day.

Also, you are very hard leaning on the nonsensical trans suicide talking point and I think that's funny that your hypotheticals are trying to assert it as fact. The reality is that these far right mouthpieces are spewing hate towards trans people causing our lives to be less and less fun to live out in the world, which can contribute to depression but simply being trans doesn't mean you are mentally ill. Jesus fucking Christ stop typing lol


Ok, so lets say being trans itself isnt a mental illness, because honestly i have no real stance on that. what percent of trans people would you estimate have a mental illness of another type (depression, ptsd, bipolar, etc)? just ballpark.
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Aug 23 2024 08:25am
And how would we label these restrooms? Men, Women and... what? Unsure, Undecided, Others, Mixed Reality, Half and Half, Genderites, Wishy-Washy?

Inquiring minds want to know.



/e I kind of like Wishy-Washy. :D

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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 23 2024 08:05am)
Ok, so lets say being trans itself isnt a mental illness, because honestly i have no real stance on that. what percent of trans people would you estimate have a mental illness of another type (depression, ptsd, bipolar, etc)? just ballpark.


It would likely be slightly higher than any other demographic, due to social stigma and the fact that most trans people so a psychiatrist and have diagnosis for mental things, far greater than the average population does. As to an exact number? Be real now
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