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Feb 7 2024 03:32pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2024 01:14pm)
Public sentiment already disfavors involvement in Ukraine in the US, and Russia has been stonewalled from telling their side of things by the US MSM.

Tucker simply asking questions and allowing Putin to say what he wants, unclipped, uncut, unedited is the most damaging thing to MSM credibility they can imagine.


LOL. "gotta hear both sides!"

fucking pathetic
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Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 14:32)
LOL. "gotta hear both sides!"

fucking pathetic


Ukraine has a corrupt government, utilizes a military that openly marches under Nazi flags, and is neither an ally nor business partner of the US.

Yes, as a taxpayer, I DO expect to hear both sides of the conflict before I support hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars, stolen at gunpoint, as well as the weapons stockpiles of our military, to be sent to either side.

This is why both Joe Biden AND Nikki Haley are polling so horrifically bad, while RFK and Trump are polling so high. Those who push a war that accomplishes nothing but wasting American blood and treasure in a nation that has NEVER benefitted US citizens in any way are terrified that their weapons and money laundering scam will lose them the 2024 election.

And that's not just true for the US. War vs Russia is not even favored among the citizens of the EU. And the EU has suffered greatly by being shut off from Russian energy and Russian resources. The end goal of the warhawks is to simply steal all the Russian Resources. There is no moral high ground to stand on. And hearing both sides of the conflict is likely to lose the warmongers of MANY countries their elections.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2024 10:14pm)
Public sentiment already disfavors involvement in Ukraine in the US, and Russia has been stonewalled from telling their side of things by the US MSM.

Tucker simply asking questions and allowing Putin to say what he wants, unclipped, uncut, unedited is the most damaging thing to MSM credibility they can imagine.


Let's clear something up: I am pretty sure the questions are premeditated and Tucker as well Putin have got their agenda to push through, so don't expect objective reporting. However, hearing what the other party has to say at all is very important for people who have got more than 2 braincells. I am really curious what Putin is gonna say be it lies or whatnot.
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2024 10:41pm)
Ukraine has a corrupt government, utilizes a military that openly marches under Nazi flags, and is neither an ally nor business partner of the US.

Yes, as a taxpayer, I DO expect to hear both sides of the conflict before I support hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars, stolen at gunpoint, as well as the weapons stockpiles of our military, to be sent to either side.

This is why both Joe Biden AND Nikki Haley are polling so horrifically bad, while RFK and Trump are polling so high. Those who push a war that accomplishes nothing but wasting American blood and treasure in a nation that has NEVER benefitted US citizens in any way are terrified that their weapons and money laundering scam will lose them the 2024 election.

And that's not just true for the US. War vs Russia is not even favored among the citizens of the EU. And the EU has suffered greatly by being shut off from Russian energy and Russian resources. The end goal of the warhawks is to simply steal all the Russian Resources. There is no moral high ground to stand on. And hearing both sides of the conflict is likely to lose the warmongers of MANY countries their elections.

China wants to do the same, India would like to as well. Pushing Russia into China's arms is probably the biggest and most tragic mistake.



This post was edited by babun1024 on Feb 7 2024 04:06pm
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Let's clear something up: I am pretty sure the questions are premeditated and Tucker as well Putin have got their agenda to push through, so don't expect objective reporting. However, hearing what the other party has to say at all is very important for people who have got more than 2 braincells. I am really curious what Putin is gonna say be it lies or whatnot.


For sure Putin will push his agenda. What is yet to be seen is if he'll be honest or not. We know Zelenski hasn't been honest. How many "Ghost of Kiev" and "100K Russians killed week 1" stories have we allowed Zelenski to push to achieve his agenda, while preventing Russia from saying anything at all?

It's honestly hilarious how many mental midgets are whining that Tucker is performing journalism. Reminder: The US is not at war with Russia. Congress has declared no such war. There is no travel ban between the US and Russia, the Biden Administration has imposed no such restriction. Tucker paying his own money to travel to a nation we're not at war with, that has no travel restrictions to or from it, is not an issue. Yet they're behaving as though he's guilty of some form of treason. Just LOL.

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China wants to do the same, India would like to as well. Pushing Russia into China's arms is probably the biggest and most tragic mistake.


Agreed to the extent that China wants Russia's resources. They don't seem interested in stealing them though. They'd rather obtain them in good faith. Sad when the CCP is behaving more rationally than the so-called "democracies" of the West.

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For sure Putin will push his agenda. What is yet to be seen is if he'll be honest or not. We know Zelenski hasn't been honest. How many "Ghost of Kiev" and "100K Russians killed week 1" stories have we allowed Zelenski to push to achieve his agenda, while preventing Russia from saying anything at all?

It's honestly hilarious how many mental midgets are whining that Tucker is performing journalism. Reminder: The US is not at war with Russia. Congress has declared no such war. There is no travel ban between the US and Russia, the Biden Administration has imposed no such restriction. Tucker paying his own money to travel to a nation we're not at war with, that has no travel restrictions to or from it, is not an issue. Yet they're behaving as though he's guilty of some form of treason. Just LOL.

Aside from propaganda, Russia is fighting on Ukrainian territory, kills and shells its people, occupies parts of that country. Ukraine isn't Russia or its district, that's the truth. The reasons for such actions are another story but the reality is Russia is destroying Ukraine atm. I wouldn't paint them as the good guys over Ukrainian government.

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Ukraine has a corrupt government, utilizes a military that openly marches under Nazi flags, and is neither an ally nor business partner of the US.

Yes, as a taxpayer, I DO expect to hear both sides of the conflict before I support hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars, stolen at gunpoint, as well as the weapons stockpiles of our military, to be sent to either side.

This is why both Joe Biden AND Nikki Haley are polling so horrifically bad, while RFK and Trump are polling so high. Those who push a war that accomplishes nothing but wasting American blood and treasure in a nation that has NEVER benefitted US citizens in any way are terrified that their weapons and money laundering scam will lose them the 2024 election.

And that's not just true for the US. War vs Russia is not even favored among the citizens of the EU. And the EU has suffered greatly by being shut off from Russian energy and Russian resources. The end goal of the warhawks is to simply steal all the Russian Resources. There is no moral high ground to stand on. And hearing both sides of the conflict is likely to lose the warmongers of MANY countries their elections.


yeah totally, lets listen to the dude who has been actively trying to undermine OUR COUNTRY and OUR ELECTIONS for the last 10 + years. Im sure it wont be propaganda, right? we totally have shared interests with Russia :bonk:

the only people who would platform Putin are right-wing turncoat Maga chuds
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Aside from propaganda, Russia is fighting on Ukrainian territory, kills and shells its people, occupies parts of that country. Ukraine isn't Russia or its district, that's the truth. The reasons for such actions are another story but the reality is Russia is destroying Ukraine atm.


This is not accurate. The Donbask Republics declared independence from Ukraine in 2014 when a coup overthrew the Ukrainian government.

Those independent Republics specifically requested aid from Russia after 7 years of being murdered by the foreign government of Ukraine.

The fact that people who consistently cry about "muh democracy!" do not believe that people should have the right to democratically choose to be independent from hostile governments that are keen on murdering them is hilarious.

Russia is enforcing the will of the Republics, and Ukraine has thrown the bulk of it's male population away ATTACKING the Republics and the Russians, because they want the resources of the Republics, even if they don't give two shits less about their people. :)

Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 15:16)
yeah totally, lets listen to the dude who has been actively trying to undermine OUR COUNTRY and OUR ELECTIONS for the last 10 + years. Im sure it wont be propaganda, right? we totally have shared interests with Russia :bonk:

the only people who would platform Putin are right-wing turncoat Maga chuds


More "Russia Russia Russia!" bullshit? After millions in investigations, how was it determined that Russia "undermined" our elections? A few thousand dollars worth of facebook ads and some twitter bots? Weird, because our government has invested billions into propaganda to undermine the elections of nearly every nation on Earth. Hell, our President went to London and directly threatened the UK with cutting of trade ties if they voted yes on Brexit.

You're silly, small minded, and not worth listening to.

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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2024 02:19pm)
More "Russia Russia Russia!" bullshit? After millions in investigations, how was it determined that Russia "undermined" our elections? A few thousand dollars worth of facebook ads and some twitter bots? Weird, because our government has invested billions into propaganda to undermine the elections of nearly every nation on Earth. Hell, our President went to London and directly threatened the UK with cutting of trade ties if they voted yes on Brexit.

You're silly, small minded, and not worth listening to.


did you purposefully ignore the 3 dozen Russian intelligence officers who were prosecuted? its mind-numbingly insane (hey, Insane Bob!) how willing right wing chuds are to turn a blind eye to events that ACTUALLY HAPPENED!

fun fact, Russia has one of the largest state-sponsored cyber operations groups in the whole world, second only to China. you clearly dont have a single fucking clue what youre talking about - just like every other piece of Trump trash

https://www.cisa.gov/topics/cyber-threats-and-advisories/advanced-persistent-threats/russia

https://www.cfr.org/cyber-operations/

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Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 15:30)
did you purposefully ignore the 3 dozen Russian intelligence officers who were prosecuted? its mind-numbingly insane (hey, Insane Bob!) how willing right wing chuds are to turn a blind eye to events that ACTUALLY HAPPENED!

fun fact, Russia has one of the largest state-sponsored cyber operations groups in the whole world. you clearly dont have a single fucking clue what youre talking about - just like every other piece of Trump trash

https://www.cisa.gov/topics/cyber-threats-and-advisories/advanced-persistent-threats/russia

https://www.cfr.org/cyber-operations/


LOL! So what you're saying is that it's okay for the US to actively interfere in the elections of every other nation on earth, but if some other nation even puts an opinion in online, they're the big evil?

You're a joke, and sham prosecutions of non-Citizens who aren't even in the country are meaningless. Just bait to make simpletons believe a narrative. Seems like they hit the mark with you, eh?
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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 02:16pm)
yeah totally, lets listen to the dude who has been actively trying to undermine OUR COUNTRY and OUR ELECTIONS for the last 10 + years. Im sure it wont be propaganda, right? we totally have shared interests with Russia :bonk:


Maybe if you had given Putin a chance to say his side of the story and maybe defend himself, you would find that he hasn't been undermining your country or elections.

You are condemning someone and refusing to let him say anything. How is this fair treatment to anyone?

Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 01:32pm)
LOL. "gotta hear both sides!"

fucking pathetic


Why is hearing both sides pathetic?

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