agreed, when Trump refused to cede the election and subsequently tried to stop the certification process, he attacked our constitutional order and incited an insurrection. thats the law
you subvert an election, you cant run for office anymore. he's lucky he doesnt get his head cut off

shifting demographics

No, I mean actual physical civil war, want to clear up any confusion. That's just the logical progression of events if the country balkanizes. Has there been any country that spiraled into partisan conflict bitter enough to have secessionist movements without armed conflict?
Its just an issue of following that question of 'what comes next?'

Say the supreme court doesn't intervene to restore sanity. Say we go into the election year with Trump barred from ballots in multiple states. He remains the Republican candidate, its Trump vs Biden, but Democrats both try to block people from being able to vote for Trump, and maybe even issue arrest and imprisonment orders against him. Now what actually happens as a result? What happens if Florida refuses to extradite him? What happens if Texas declares it won't recognize the election as legitimate if other states bar Trump? And if that election is held, and Biden wins, what happens? We've seen plenty of precedent for this from banana republics and autocratic dictatorships around the world. If a centralized power is strong enough it can simply crush all dissent with an iron fist and force people in line, but that will never work in a partisan America, where half the country will be "uncooperative". Its a proximate spark to a conflict. People won't have the option to simply go about their daily lives and assume politics will sort itself out and go on like normal. Folks aren't just going to say, oh, the election was actually rigged and stolen, and we were all disenfranchised, guess we'll wait another 4 years to try again. Something will have to give.

You can't just end democracy in the US and assume life will go on as before. We have 50 states with far too strong localized governance to let that fly. Just forming the country took all kinds of tooth pulling from the states to secure their rights and interests and protect them from tyranny of the majority. Why would those states remain in the union if they're being disenfranchised? And history shows that never ends peacefully. I don't think we could predict anything down a line that chaotic, only the general gist of 'hey, maybe lighting the powder keg isn't a good idea'

But of course, I'd like to believe none of this is possible and won't happen, because no matter how demented Democrats try to be, sanity will prevail and peel us back from the edge.

We watched very different footage.

which time?
the mask lie?
the covid lie?
being called non essential and putting people out of work?
jan 6th iNsUrEcTiOn lie?
russia russia russia???



because they are criminally insane



so scared they have to remove trump off the list

you fer sure gonna get him this time............

really hairy iNsUrReCtIoN.................... SPECIALLY when they gunned down that unarmed woman

little unarmed woman lEaDeR of the InSuReCtIoN. all the leftie frauds scared and sniveling in the corner. but but btu covid kook cop had a gun and blasted her saving our dEmOCrAcY whew........

This post was edited by TiStuff on Dec 20 2023 02:00am

Actually what happened was a massive-scale campaign by the Democrat party to successfully cheat in swing states resulting in once-in-a-millennium statistical anomalies that perfectly handed the election to a thousand year old mummy with crippling dementia, and because there is no referee, the cheat went through and the win was legit. Then federal law enforcement entrapped a bunch of boomer grandmas who went on a walking tour of the capitol and got the book thrown at them by an administrative state hostile to American citizens and loyal to foreign and corporate special interests, and programmable NPCs like yourself support them every step of the way.

What happened is Trump was steamrolling his way to an overwhelming reelection when a pandemic blindsided him, and Democrats immediately recognized it was their only chance to win and forced the lockdown measures because the president will take the hit no matter who is responsible, a simple rule of democracy in bad times. They pushed vote by mail knowing it favors them, they discouraged people from voting in person. Even though Trump handled the pandemic sensibly by opposing excessive lockdowns and supporting an all-out vaccine blitz, he shot himself in the foot by stupidly discouraging his own supporters from voting by mail. All that added up to just enough to push Biden over the line. It didn't take voter fraud, it took an act of god and an act of dumbass. And fittingly, a bunch of dumbass chuds showed up to the capitol with the intent to protest and shout their discontent, and then were mystified and surprised when they were able to waltz into the building and force their way through a police presence that stood down and let them pass. Like a dog chasing a car, they had no idea what to do when they got in there, took some selfies and marched back out. Deaths and injuries came from both the piss poor crowd management as a crush of people poured into small bottlenecks, and an overreaction from a trigger happy cop shooting some nonthreatening unarmed woman who posed less immediate threat to the senate than his own bullets. Eventually the admonishments from Trump himself proved pivotal in getting the crowd to disperse, he accomplished what all the finger wagging by Nancy Pelosi never could. And then followed years of Democrats gleefully seizing on it to lock up political protesters for their overeager attempt to petition their government for redress, persecuting them and throwing the book at them and lying blatantly about it on loop on NPR.