And then there is also neuralink

Clinical trials are open and they have maxed first set in their 6 year trial

Everyone is writing this one off but you never know. Nobody does it until someone does it. Even if Elon is just the hype man here, it’s how spacex started

Like I said I don’t have strong “opinions” one way or another, but I want these companies succeed because that means humanity is better off

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 9 2023 08:39pm

Amen. Musk gets too much hate irrationally. The things he has his hands on if they succeed will be objectively positive for the US, not only the US but humanity as a whole.

I mean imagine if we’re able to get a man on mars in our lifetime. Would be awesome for humanity. Would inspire more investment more people dreaming to conquer the last frontier.

Edit meant mars not moon lol

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Dec 9 2023 08:49pm

shoot your shot and I don’t mind cheering from the sidelines. If you fuck up we are back to square one anyway so what’s the downside in hoping

Edit :ya I knew what you meant

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 9 2023 08:53pm

Neuralink's best scientists have already abandoned ship, and even then the only things they've managed so far is to replicate experiments from 20 years ago with way more dead monkeys. Basically they hired a bunch of scientists from notable labs working on similar projects, set up the experiments that are commonplace, showed them to the public that isn't aware we have had monkeys playing pong with their brains for 20 years now, and pretended they were making great progress.

What they're promising is also unrealistic. There are actual neuroscientists working on neuralink-like projects in order to help disabled people. That would be the initail steps of development, and that's still pretty far away from mass deployment.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 9 2023 09:55pm

Problem with this is it gets in the way of real progress. Musk promised hyperloop and California massively delayed its high speed rail as a result.

These false promises are not harmless. They divert attention and resources from things that can actually make a better world.

It's more or less the same thing as Christians saying God will come back before global warming becomes a problem so we shouldn't worry about it. "We don't need to fix anything. Musk will invent a solution before it gets too bad!". Just as fanciful. Just as harmful.d


I actually had a somewhat positive view of Musk before I looked into his ventures. I was kinda excited for automatic cars run by star link. Then I started looking into the details and realized it's all vaporware with no chance of actually working. And that happened for virtually every one of his ventures.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 9 2023 09:59pm

I hear you, and can definitely see that side where overall progress is harmed as we cling to failed hope.

But in the specific arenas of spacex and neuralink, these aren’t monopoly spaces right now. Obviously you and I cannot start our own rocket company but there’s nothing stopping the trillion dollar companies from joining in. With neuralink I am aware of a few competitors too, and I wish them the same luck I’d wish anything with elons name on it.

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 9 2023 10:11pm

news is?
alex jones going to be back on twitter ..................brace for the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Musk recently reinstated the account of Alex Jones, of the Infowars fame, after polling X/twitter's users in a poll. And he said:

"I vehemently disagree with what [Jones] said about Sandy Hook, but are we a platform that believes in freedom of speech or are we not? That is what it comes down to in the end. If the people vote him back on, this will be bad for X financially, but principles matter more than money.”

If Musk is being sincere, then I really have a lot of respect for him. He knows that by allowing an alleged "conspiracy theorist" back on his site, he could risk losing advertising dollars. But his ideal of free speech absolutism is more important to him than money. How can anybody not admire him for this?

It shouldn't require a "public vote" to restore someone's "free speech".

Elon Musk took other people's opinions of Alex Jones as ABSOLUTE TRUTH and used it up until a few days ago as an excuse to keep him "banned from the public square".

As someone who listened to Infowars often back during his coverage of the Sandy Hook shooting Alex Jones NEVER said what they claimed. NEVER. It was probably one of the most pathetic lawsuits I've ever seen because I KNEW exactly what he said and to see him found "guilty" for things he didn't say was a SLAP IN THE FACE to anyone whose still honest at heart. They took things he said out of context. They said he said things that someone else on his show came on and said.

So no...Elon isn't a hero or free speech absolutist. He's an opportunist. That's his MO.

Elon showed his true colors lately. New Tesla battery packs are a single piece that if one of the batteries fails, gotta replace the whole dang thing. Just how he wants it. Unlike the new vws that have basically legos.

Don’t get me started on his morals. Additionally, he is mentally ill and clearly didn’t get enough psychiatric assistance throughout his life.