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#51
Oct 7 2023 10:29am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 7 2023 11:24am)
Would been better than keeping them in a concentration camp.

Somehow the state founded after the holocaust decided a mini holocaust was acceptable.

Humans are so incredibly shirt sighted. We are probably doomed as a species


I was going to call this a false equivalence but then I remembered how during the holocaust the germans left the jews both their own self-governed strip of land and german citizenship for those in the motherland, and provided them with humanitarian support, only for the jews to launch cross-border raids and missile barrages and terrorist attacks. And how instead of concentration camps slaughtering millions of people, they actually saw the jewish population explode 500% over 70 years
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#52
Oct 7 2023 10:33am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 7 2023 12:19pm)
I never said this kind of stuff. I just said than - another far right governement messed up - and was vastly responsible of this (and incoming deadly response).
I'm not that kind of fuck off who would support Iran to give rockets to terrorists.


Yes my fellow new found friend, I completely agree with your statement, this attack was provoked by illegal Israeli settlements and Palestinians are simply defending their homeland from evil nazi colonizers, we ARE on the right side of history!

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#53
Oct 7 2023 10:34am
Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Oct 2023 18:24)
What specifically did Israel to as a proximate cause of this war?
Try answering that without falling back on irredentist tropes


You already dodged it:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=102073482&f=119&p=651998530

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 7 Oct 2023 18:26)
you need a source for public knowledge, thats why you are a lazy dumbass and nobody takes you seriously


I am suspecting a small part could have been missused, but you prefer to polarize and amalgamate without any serious source.

Quote (Handcuffs @ 7 Oct 2023 18:26)
This situation is so complex. Truly tragic the amount of suffering. I haven't the slightest idea how peace can be meaningfully achieved, but I hope that it can--and quickly.


Yeah, thus I think something happened years ago here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin
The assassin, an Israeli ultranationalist named Yigal Amir, radically opposed Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's peace initiative, particularly the signing of the Oslo Accords.
1995 so this makes 1 generation.

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#54
Oct 7 2023 10:37am
Quote (zorzin @ 7 Oct 2023 18:33)
Yes my fellow new found friend, I completely agree with your statement, this attack was provoked by illegal Israeli settlements and Palestinians are simply defending their homeland from evil nazi colonizers, we ARE on the right side of history!
https://i.postimg.cc/yNNkD22z/1696688197422617.jpg


I doubt they are fairly organized as citizen anymore, they are also vastly manipulated, btw the Hamas itself created by Israel:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
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https://tribune.com.pk/story/2302309/how-and-why-israel-helped-create-hamas



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#55
Oct 7 2023 10:43am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 7 2023 11:34am)
You already dodged it:


I asked you for a proximate cause. All you've said so far basically sums up to "they're jews"
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#56
Oct 7 2023 10:45am
Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Oct 2023 18:43)
I asked you for a proximate cause. All you've said so far basically sums up to "they're jews"


You couldn't show more bad faith.
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#57
Oct 7 2023 10:47am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 7 2023 09:24am)
Would been better than keeping them in a concentration camp.

Somehow the state founded after the holocaust decided a mini holocaust was acceptable.

Humans are so incredibly shirt sighted.


Is that like eyes that see shirts only?

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We are probably doomed as a species


Because we have people like you for intellectuals.
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#58
Oct 7 2023 10:55am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 7 2023 11:45am)
You couldn't show more bad faith.


Bad faith like a response to a question of a proximate cause of a conflict being answered by something as vague as 'they elected a government I disagreed with many years ago'?
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#59
Oct 7 2023 10:58am
Really heartless operation by Hamas, aiming citizen, children and innocent people.

They will certainly regret these actions…
And this time, don’t preach us about tolerance…
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Oct 7 2023 11:01am
Quote (NiRo_O @ 8 Oct 2023 00:58)
Really heartless operation by Hamas, aiming citizen, children and innocent people.

They will certainly regret these actions…
And this time, don’t preach us about tolerance…


They will settle it soon. I don't see Palestine coming back from this honestly.
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