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#51
Oct 3 2023 06:06pm
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Update your time frame.

Biden didn't intentionally keep documents (Trump did) and when requested he returned them (Trump didnt) and Trump lied on sworn statements to the government that he had returned all the documents despite knowing he didn't.

Both were treated with kid gloves until Trump actively obstructed.

This is such an obvious open and shut case that anybody defending trump can be immediately written off as a hack with zero further evidence needed

that's still false. biden never returned all the documents. it's how they were found in multiple different places later.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924
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(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.
(b)For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c)In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.


the argument now is.. did biden mean to take so many classified documents and store them within "numerous" unauthorized locations?
or was it just 1 unauthorized location and the security was so lacking, that they ended up all over the country?

each document is technically a count btw.
actually, i'm reading this and it does get a little tricky with (b). i may have to rethink my position, i'll get back to you.

i've thought about it. it depends if the documents were "provided" and not "taken".

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#52
Oct 3 2023 06:09pm
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that's still false. biden never returned all the documents. it's how they were found in multiple different places later.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

the argument now is.. did biden mean to take so many classified documents and store them within "numerous" unauthorized locations?
or was it just 1 unauthorized location and the security was so lacking, that they ended up all over the country?


Biden returned them when they were identified.

This is why this is a great litmus test. You're so blatantly dishonest about such an obvious issue
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#53
Oct 3 2023 06:22pm
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Biden returned them when they were identified.

This is why this is a great litmus test. You're so blatantly dishonest about such an obvious issue

by identified... you mean... after they had to find them when biden "didn't" give them all over like you claimed he did.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/14/1149071576/biden-classified-documents-what-we-know
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On four occasions, classified documents were found at Biden's private residence and a D.C. office he used before becoming president.


unless you mean, he gave them all over when they were taken from him.
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#54
Oct 3 2023 06:24pm
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by identified... you mean... after they had to find them when biden "didn't" give them all over like you claimed he did.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/14/1149071576/biden-classified-documents-what-we-know


unless you mean, he gave them all over when they were taken from him.


Yeah your dishonesty is noted. I've made it clear multiple times I'm referencing when they were identified as missing.

You have nothing, so you have to lie
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Oct 3 2023 06:26pm
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Yeah your dishonesty is noted. I've made it clear multiple times I'm referencing when they were identified as missing.

You have nothing, so you have to lie

if biden gave them over when identified as missing... they wouldn't have had to go find them 4 different times.
you know. trump was working with the fbi and the NA as well. the fbi even put the lock on the safe if i'm not mistaken.

wait... they found some outside of the safe? it must be evil intent, unlike biden who left them... everywhere...
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#56
Oct 3 2023 06:35pm
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if biden gave them over when identified as missing... they wouldn't have had to go find them 4 different times.
you know. trump was working with the fbi and the NA as well. the fbi even put the lock on the safe if i'm not mistaken.

wait... they found some outside of the safe? it must be evil intent, unlike biden who left them... everywhere...


You didn't even know senators can have classified documents. Please stop pretending you know even the most basic aspects of this. You clearly decided before learning a single fact about it.
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#57
Oct 3 2023 06:41pm
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for a hope of defeating the open-borders far-left pedophiles, first you have to clean out the RINO open-borders neocon trash

bravo Gaetz


Your MAGA diluted brain has no idea what involves being a RHINO or not. Stop using terms you don’t understand
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Oct 3 2023 06:47pm
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You didn't even know senators can have classified documents. Please stop pretending you know even the most basic aspects of this. You clearly decided before learning a single fact about it.

they can't in the way you describe it. allow me to remind you.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924
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18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.


your extreme bias blinds you on how this charge has been weaponized against 1 person. hilary is still right there with biden, actually hilary being much worse.
let's give you a left-wing source at why this is a politicized charge.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/classified-documents-nara-former-presidents/index.html
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National Archives officials testify that every administration since Reagan has mishandled classified material


why is it only a problem with trump? your bias buddy
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#59
Oct 3 2023 06:49pm
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Your MAGA diluted brain has no idea what involves being a RHINO or not. Stop using terms you don’t understand


Sorry if you as a proud rhino got offended but try to re-read, i was speaking about a term that differs from your pronoun.
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#60
Oct 3 2023 06:50pm
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they can't in the way you describe it. allow me to remind you.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924


your extreme bias blinds you on how this charge has been weaponized against 1 person. hilary is still right there with biden, actually hilary being much worse.
let's give you a left-wing source at why this is a politicized charge.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/classified-documents-nara-former-presidents/index.html


why is it only a problem with trump? your bias buddy


Your lies are noted. Trump actively obstructed their return. Biden didn't.

Doesn't it suck having to constantly lie?

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 3 2023 06:50pm
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