Murikuh!

What happened to good old presidents that just wanted to invade some desert country

instead of wanting to invade our own government

zinggg got em

thank thank you im here all week

This post was edited by Crunkt on Sep 15 2023 02:11pm

Hong kong. Libia. Greece.

I think the entire idea of reducing geopolitics to some binary morality is the problem in the first place. He's a good guy? He's a bad guy? Its all just specious nonsense that the flag waving jingoists shove down our throats while getting us into another war. Brown guy bad, must kill brown guy! Lord only knows whats next after we armed Al Qaeda, then armed ISIS, then armed literal nazi war criminals (!). And somehow the kneejerk analysis of right and wrong is supposed to somehow come up in favor of the jihadis and nazis. Well I said pretty consistently since the Afghan war first began that we should serve our national interests and the war doesn't. Getting into Afghanistan was an understandable mistake, but Iraq was a sham, Yemen and Libya and Syria imcomprehensibly short sighted, but arming nazis in ukraine is some cloudcuckooland shit. I don't need to scry the bones to know it backfire just like it did for the last X times we did it.

So here we are, 22 years after 9/11 and the best argument we're getting is "Yeah but Saddam was a bad guy"

How many rubles does Putin pay you for the propaganda?


Ffs

This post was edited by said_aouita on Sep 15 2023 06:21pm

According to Libyan cities deputy mayor, the dams that burst had not been maintained since 2002.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/2023/09/13/libya-floods-why-did-the-derna-dams-fail/

"Derna deputy mayor Ahmed Madroud said on Wednesday that the structures had not been maintained since 2002. Public anger has risen amid rumours on social media that funds were allocated for its maintenance."




wtf ^^

Saddam was an utter tyrant. Anyone that says Saddam "was a bad guy" knows very little or cares nothing for the lives of ordinary Iraqis.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 16 2023 04:28am

The Rwandan genocide ended when an army of Tutsis invaded Rwanda and put down the (genocidal) Rwandan government by force. Paul Kagame stills rules in Rwanda today; his regime is certainly authoritarian and not very democratic. Sometimes that's preferable to the alternative, as Rwanda under Kagame has seen stability and economic growth.

Assad is definitively a tyrant, as were Saddam and Qaddafi. So is Egypt's Sisi, should we be preparing to invade Egypt?

I would rather have a tyrannical leader than have my country bombed into the stone age by foreigners who hate anyone who looks like me and who have no interest in my quality of life or future but merely want to ensure the dominance of their faltering ideological system.

Saddam? That was America’s boy and we know he had weapons of mass destruction, because we gave him the weapons. We were behind the evil atrocities that happened during his reign. Sorry little puppet lost his value in the end, but the tyrant never died.

No. I would agree he is a tyrant although not the extent of Saddam or Assad. I don't see there is an imminent risk of the mass murder of civilians. Which I think is the factor that would most justify any military solution.
In the light of the failures of nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan, It would be suicide for the US to embark on something similar anytime soon, unless it was globally unilateral.
I think exerting soft power is a much preferred option.

If the US or anyone would be prepared to in your words "invade Egypt" based on Sisi's tyranny, then Israel ought to be concerned for itself on account of Netanyahu's behavior.



I would rather you used a full stop or any punctuation at all.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 16 2023 08:48am

The bar needed to invade and destroy a country is "well I just don't really like that guy"