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Aug 15 2023 11:16am
Quote (Ghot @ 15 Aug 2023 12:24)
Cause the DEMS keep putting them back in.






See above. And I read about Oak Island... before it became "a thing" on TV. :-)


bruh the crooks were still there the day before he left he didn't drain shit
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Aug 15 2023 11:17am
Quote (Ghot @ 14 Aug 2023 22:08)
That does seem to be the issue.
All those slippery definitions of... crimes.
Crimes that one party is allowed to commit while the other party isn't.

Such are the mysteries of the modern era. LOL


Ya like when Biden refused to hand over top secret documents back to the national archives for over 2 years only to force the archives to get a warrant to grab them. Then wehn the FBI showed up it turns out the documents were all over in publicly available places to read such as bathrooms and waiting rooms.

Or Or Or When Biden called up Fulton County to ask for 11780 votes to appear out of nowhere and make Biden win? Totally

This post was edited by Crunkt on Aug 15 2023 11:17am
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Aug 15 2023 11:19am
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Aug 15 2023 11:22am
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 15 2023 12:05pm)
He couldn't. The House was Democrat, and the Senate was 50/50.
Plus... everybody and their mother was suing him.
High level DEMS were encouraging massive disorder as well.

I'm surprised and impressed that he got anything done.


then you understand how the office of president works far less than he did when he was making campaign promises you swallowed whole.

he knew the landscape of the legislature, AND he got into office by torching RINOS, so even if he did cause a red wave at either 2016 or during midterms he was unlikely to get broad support from even his own party.

he knew he was relegated to executive orders, something he demonized Obama for using, and he knew he'd abuse them to give the impression he was acting on his campaign promises.

agents of change promise the world, obama was the same, but they never get legislative support and are ultimately a single stroke of a pen away from having all of their gains undone.

literally the only thing, and i mean this literally, trump did as president was appoint justices at an increased rate nationwide and a seriously increased rate in SCOTUS. that is the only thing he did that will have any effect at all on america in the long term.

he wasnt close to solving immigration, he didnt make any changes to corruption in washington, he didnt alter healthcare at all, didnt bolster the 2nd amendment, he didnt boost free speech, he didn't do anything at all other than appoint judges.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 15 2023 11:22am
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Aug 15 2023 11:22am
Quote (Ghot @ Aug 15 2023 12:25am)
That's not really what I care about in a president. And that's coming from an ex- Master Carpenter/Master Cabinet Maker.
As a President he was doing what needed done.

Honestly... the way I see things, he was a breath of fresh air.


Atta boy Ghot, at least you outright admit you don't care and want a president that previously fucked the little guy. I mean, that is what you want in a president.
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Aug 15 2023 11:56am
Quote (Sioux @ Aug 15 2023 09:01am)
You haven't made an argument. You vomited words that have no meaning.


Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 15 2023 09:56am)
Nope. No intention of debating with MAGA clones. Utter waste of time


Its quite the curiosity that you guys post on PARD regularly despite being unable to articulate your political beliefs beyond the most asinine shitposts
Well constructed belief systems don't balk at being asked to explain themselves.
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Aug 15 2023 12:40pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 15 2023 10:56am)
Its quite the curiosity that you guys post on PARD regularly despite being unable to articulate your political beliefs beyond the most asinine shitposts
Well constructed belief systems don't balk at being asked to explain themselves.


Well constructed belief systems also don't need 500 meaningless words to prop up their doublethink.

We can go back to your first post in this thread and take it apart if you'd really like, you spent 200 words to say literally nothing.

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"It's never RICO" is basically the lawsplainer version of house's '"it's never lupus'".


Fun pop culture reference but does nothing to address why you don't think RICO is appropriate.

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When you think about it, its really a demented fun house mirror. Trump sought desperately to find evidence of nefarious voter fraud to overturn the election and couldn't, because it didn't exist. There was no beef. He tried and tried and turned up nothing. Democrats sought desperately to find evidence of nefarious collusion between Trump and Russia, of tax cheating, of a riot conspiracy, of whatever the ukrainian led impeachment nonsense was. And couldn't. There was no beef. They tried and tried and turned up nothing.


Meaningless false equivocation not addressing the actual charging document

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So I guess what democrats are doing are a bit like if Trump had clung to power, refused to leave the white house and ordered the national guard to detain the democrats in congress as the despotic tyrant they always accused him of being. But he didn't. He told everyone to go home in peace. Democrats meanwhile keep racking up a body count of murdered Trump supporters.


Again, not at all related to the charges. There's very specific allegations in the document but you never actually address specifics in anything you post. You make up a strawman then knock it down.

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This kind of aggressive game theory makes me figure that if Joe Biden is put into a nuclear brinksmanship scenario, he'll shoot first, even if we're not even at the edge.


Chicken little screams the sky is falling.
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Aug 15 2023 12:49pm
Quote (Sioux @ Aug 15 2023 01:40pm)
Well constructed belief systems also don't need 500 meaningless words to prop up their doublethink.
We can go back to your first post in this thread and take it apart if you'd really like, you spent 200 words to say literally nothing.
Fun pop culture reference but does nothing to address why you don't think RICO is appropriate.
Meaningless false equivocation not addressing the actual charging document
Again, not at all related to the charges. There's very specific allegations in the document but you never actually address specifics in anything you post. You make up a strawman then knock it down.
Chicken little screams the sky is falling.


You're still asinine shitposting instead of making an argument.
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Aug 15 2023 12:57pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 15 2023 11:49am)
You're still asinine shitposting instead of making an argument.


You're not making an argument either, you do the same except you're in need of an editor.
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Aug 15 2023 12:57pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 15 2023 01:49pm)
You're still asinine shitposting instead of making an argument.


Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 15 2023 09:30am)
#1 lawyer advice, shut. the. fuck. up.

trump and his team were incapable of that.

constantly claiming SPECIFIC officials and voting companies were corrupt, lying, burying evidence, conspiring against democracy, etc.

the claims, as you said based on ZERO evidence, were so wide ranging that it built the case for the prosecution.

now it's a case of who will turn on who, classic mafia prosecution. bring in everyone and see who buries who.

Powell, Guiliani, etc were all directly an agent legally for Trump, and their action he's likely liable for to some degree unless they wen't completely rogue.

and on a 4d chess level this case isn't design to sink trump, it's to sink the election fraud narrative. trump used the cases being tossed due to lack of evidence to further the deepstate narrative, instead the deepstate will bring him to court to expose just how little they had.


BUMP.
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