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This post was edited by TiStuff on Aug 11 2023 06:10pm

If they are able to prove Trump's intent, I think the charges can stick. His goal, which started on election night through January 6th and beyond, was to steal the election.

Incitement is a very difficult crime to prove. I don't know how Jack Smith including the insurrection as part of the narrative of the indictment makes him a partisan, bad faith actor, unless you consider opposition to a sitting president trying to steal an election he lost(and his supporters storming the Capitol to block certification of that election) a partisan issue.

The importance of this case really can't be overstated. Trump ended America's tradition of a peaceful transfer of power, at least in the sense that the transfer of power was not peaceful because of his efforts to steal the election and the attempted insurrection by his supporters. His actions had no political consequence beyond an impeachment without a conviction. He's the heavy favorite to win the Republican nomination... his approval rating remained stable after he attempted to end American democracy as we know it. So Congress failed to hold him accountable. Maybe the Justice Department can do it. This case is one of the most consequential in American history.

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 11 2023 06:42pm

To prove intent, they will probably have to prove that Trump knew he had lost the election and was deliberately lying when he claimed otherwise. That's a tough task.


He is intentionally misleading the public about the crimes for which he's prosecuting Trump. Legally speaking, it does nothing for his case, so why does he do that? Well, Jan 6 is a much more visual and striking event than Trump's phone calls with state officials etc., so bringing it up and refreshing Americans' memory of that day is politically harmful to Trump (and really the whole GOP brand).

Needless to say that Jack Smith joined the DoJ during the Obama administration. Oh, and his wife was literally the producer of a glowing documentary on Michelle Obama.



Smith is free to personally oppose the actions of Trump, but it's his job to put his personal feelings aside and conduct his investigation in a nonpartisan fashion. In particular, he shouldn't needlessly carry out his job in a way that pays partisan dividends for the party of the incumbent administration. A special counsel is appointed specifically to avoid any semblance of partiality in highly political cases - and he's failing this aspect of his job.

Since you're so concerned with American democracy and the integrity of its institutions, you should understand how dicey it is when the president lets the DoJ (which ultimately answers to him) carry out an investigation into his most likely rival in the upcoming election, and how highly corrosive it would be to American democracy when this investigations is perceived as politically charged.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 11 2023 08:07pm

have you seen the mountains of evidence they have? then theres all the people that have flipped, Trump's own words, tweets, etc. I dont think the cases would be where they are if they didnt have enough evidence to nail him

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Why did you run away?

which happened after trump announced he was running

You come across as completely deranged, i am guessing you are a grown adult try to act like it.

you been duped by lies from the very beginning. did it start with the peepee tapes??? or was the first lie when all the fake news was running around saying trump would disavow whyte supremacy or was it russia russia russai maddow all the time. part of growing up is not getting played for a chump so easily, make it happen

Part of growing up is realising your hero's may not be as cool as you thought.