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Jul 10 2023 03:08pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 10 2023 05:48pm)
I'm quite happy to give a response to a challenge, and feel that I did. Maybe I'm not understanding what challenge you posed?

It seemed your challenge was that people who have been supportive of the trans community have been silent about this issue and are now experiencing the long-term backlash of that silence, which is fueled by the media/politicians leaning into it as a wedge issue. Is my understanding correct?


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The people you are talking about are reacting to "trans issues" being shoved in their face constantly for years when it shouldn't have been for the exact reason you stated.


More so this.

You and people who are generally supportive of trans rights act as if this behaviour came out of nowhere, it is the direct result of this stuff being pushed in everyone's face when it isn't something most people will even encounter in their life.

This is why I am grouping you with others despite not knowing you BTW, I'm grouping you based on your behaviour, your individual opinions don't really matter in this context.

The part you quoted was just me sharing that I don't actually blame trans people or activists for trans issues becoming a wedge issue, they didn't have the power or influence to do that, their fault lies in not working hard enough to stop it becoming so crazy.

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Jul 10 2023 03:10pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Jul 10 2023 10:52am)
like a cunt over scrutinizing someone ina job interview yes...

But in reality since I do work in a top 5 Bank in Canada and send and read emails everyday relating to a 'professional setting' I can send you 50 examples of the VP saying me and you


then haha @ canada

Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 10 2023 11:10am)
It is reflective of one's position, the expressions we use. Not simply assumptions, but the judgments we make.


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Did you miss the part where I asked what the connotation was?

Seems weird to dodge that question and answer the second

If I replaced it with "you and people who are generally supportive of trans rights" would you be able to respond to the meat of the post or would you just find some other insignificant detail to focus on?


any way its not about "trans rights" its about "trans glorification" which started out as "homosexual glorification" but its not about any of that either.
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Jul 10 2023 03:16pm
Why do we have to put labels on everything.
I'm an individual, you're an individual and some pregnant woman is an individual.

I swear this idea that we needs to label people is DEHUMANIZING,...
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Jul 10 2023 03:23pm
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then haha @ canada





any way its not about "trans rights" its about "trans glorification" which started out as "homosexual glorification" but its not about any of that either.
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I think most of the support for these issues comes from well meaning but naive people who are just trying to be nice to what they view as a vulnerable minority.

I know plenty of smart people who support this stuff and they would never support it if they believed it was "trans glorification" or anything like that. I just don't think most people put a lot of thought into it because it isn't a "real" issue for most people, I'd wager many haven't even met a trans person lol.
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Jul 10 2023 03:44pm
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I think most of the support for these issues comes from well meaning but naive people who are just trying to be nice to what they view as a vulnerable minority.

I know plenty of smart people who support this stuff and they would never support it if they believed it was "trans glorification" or anything like that. I just don't think most people put a lot of thought into it because it isn't a "real" issue for most people, I'd wager many haven't even met a trans person lol.


'pride community is getting used. whats happened to bud light proves they ('pride) are artificially boosted. the real question is who is boosting the so called 'pride agenda and for what real purpose. the 'pride community will never ask that question, they are to busy looking at assess to realize what tools they are.
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Jul 10 2023 03:53pm
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'pride community is getting used. whats happened to bud light proves they ('pride) are artificially boosted. the real question is who is boosting the so called 'pride agenda and for what real purpose. the 'pride community will never ask that question, they are to busy looking at assess to realize what tools they are.


Empowering a vulnerable minority to create divisions within a society to further political, military and financial interests sounds like a certain intel agency I've heard of ^_^
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Jul 10 2023 03:55pm
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More so this.

You and people who are generally supportive of trans rights act as if this behaviour came out of nowhere, it is the direct result of this stuff being pushed in everyone's face when it isn't something most people will even encounter in their life.

This is why I am grouping you with others despite not knowing you BTW, I'm grouping you based on your behaviour, your individual opinions don't really matter in this context.

The part you quoted was just me sharing that I don't actually blame trans people or activists for trans issues becoming a wedge issue, they didn't have the power or influence to do that, their fault lies in not working hard enough to stop it becoming so crazy.


I think there's a misunderstanding, as I don't believe that it came out of nowhere. I'm also speaking specifically to a phenomenon on PaRD in which we've had a number of users be preoccupied with trans-related issues such that nearly every thread they make is about trans people, and even threads that aren't, they end up bringing up trans people in some way.

There is a legitimate discussion to be had, so I don't think your earlier assessment about "Anyone who insults the religion of LGBT is actually a closet 'whatever they insulted'" is accurate.
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Jul 10 2023 04:18pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 10 2023 04:08pm)
More so this.

You and people who are generally supportive of trans rights act as if this behaviour came out of nowhere, it is the direct result of this stuff being pushed in everyone's face when it isn't something most people will even encounter in their life. <----

This is why I am grouping you with others despite not knowing you BTW, I'm grouping you based on your behaviour, your individual opinions don't really matter in this context.

The part you quoted was just me sharing that I don't actually blame trans people or activists for trans issues becoming a wedge issue, they didn't have the power or influence to do that, ------> their fault lies in not working hard enough to stop it becoming so crazy.


this is just bullshit hyped up by right wing think tanks. it didnt come out of nowhere this hate spike and false pretense, it started spiking up hard in a certain year this forum would deny wholeheartedly. 2016

and to the second, this is the most strap yourself by the bootstraps ass statement and its actually hilarious. you think we are just gonna start denouncing trans activism in general just because dipshits like matt walsh and libs of tiktok starting blowing up fringe topics that were not, and still arent, the majority opinion? utterly and wholly deranged mindset
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Jul 10 2023 05:11pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 10 2023 06:55pm)
I think there's a misunderstanding, as I don't believe that it came out of nowhere. I'm also speaking specifically to a phenomenon on PaRD in which we've had a number of users be preoccupied with trans-related issues such that nearly every thread they make is about trans people, and even threads that aren't, they end up bringing up trans people in some way.

There is a legitimate discussion to be had, so I don't think your earlier assessment about "Anyone who insults the religion of LGBT is actually a closet 'whatever they insulted'" is accurate.


They probably wouldn't even know it was a thing if again, it wasn't shoved in their faces constantly.

So what if every thread they make is about trans people? If you know that you must be reading them, couldn't you be charged with the same obsession?

I read a lot of these threads even if I don't comment in them and I see a lot of the same people (blahaj netflix you) always on the opposing side in these arguments.

And regarding the closet comment, fair enough but you can see how it would be interpreted that way right? Having seen you in these threads quite a bit I know you have seen that argument used.

Quote (blahaj @ Jul 10 2023 07:18pm)
this is just bullshit hyped up by right wing think tanks. it didnt come out of nowhere this hate spike and false pretense, it started spiking up hard in a certain year this forum would deny wholeheartedly. 2016

and to the second, this is the most strap yourself by the bootstraps ass statement and its actually hilarious. you think we are just gonna start denouncing trans activism in general just because dipshits like matt walsh and libs of tiktok starting blowing up fringe topics that were not, and still arent, the majority opinion? utterly and wholly deranged mindset


Exhibit A, this is exactly the kind of person you should have told to STFU years ago lol

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Jul 10 2023 05:37pm
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They probably wouldn't even know it was a thing if again, it wasn't shoved in their faces constantly.

So what if every thread they make is about trans people? If you know that you must be reading them, couldn't you be charged with the same obsession?

I read a lot of these threads even if I don't comment in them and I see a lot of the same people (blahaj netflix you) always on the opposing side in these arguments.

And regarding the closet comment, fair enough but you can see how it would be interpreted that way right? Having seen you in these threads quite a bit I know you have seen that argument used.



Exhibit A, this is exactly the kind of person you should have told to STFU years ago lol


bro, i'm literally the exact opposite of what you think is the bad thing. i dont vote anywhere, i hold no public opinions anywhere in my life, im literally silent, and by choice

you want so badly to put trans people into a nice one size fits all box and its fucking obvious
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