I see. I think we reach a similar conclusion, just using different language.

I think abortion should be allowed under the circumstances described, where abortion = termination of pregnancy. Abortion does not necessarily mean termination of fetal life. What I believe I hear you saying is that you think abortion should be banned under such circumstances, if abortion = termination of fetal life.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jul 10 2023 12:23pm

Very good, this is what i forgot to specify in my previous post: the doctor: If the right wing activists cannot sue the woman they will sue the doctors. So I would not be surprized if these laws are just safeguards.
"killing the baby" Yep such a joke, such a treachery imho: these republicans/christian/neo-right fanatics are doing it everyday, killing hundreds, thousands, by blocking major changes in your country: centralized, free, healthcare etc...

But no, these people want to divide the society and to increase communautarianism, getting support from a part of right wing christians. Not saying all american christians are like this, but maybe half of them.

mostly yes. but with exceptions. like if that life threatens the mother's life, or if the life is in fact braindead or severely disabled somehow. so if it's looking like the mother would die and for some uncommon reason a c-section or delivery cant happen (very fringe case id imagine) a termination is allowed. or if the child is going to be born braindead termination is allowed (also uncommon).

but if the woman and baby are healthy, she just doesnt want to deliver, no. when i hear "abortions up to due date" i dont think "induced labor prematurely". i just dont like leaving gaps in legislation unless there's a good reason.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion

Better source, I was on the way home.

100% agree


This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 10 2023 01:17pm

So you would not like to expand on your theory?

I’m still attempting to zero in on one specific piece of nonsense out of all that gobbledygook you just threw out here.

So do you believe pregnancies should be “terminated” via c section rather abortion?

I think these laws are just safeguards like i explained (is it really hard to understand ?). If you think that all "leftists" want to abort all fetus (aka "Oh Uh Little Babies Children!!") late in pregnacy than I am strongly suggesting you to seek for professional help.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 10 2023 02:00pm

See here is the thing. I am responding to something you actually said. You are implying I am saying things of which I did not.

I made this topic because in the state of Maine, you will likely be able to get a doctor to sign off on an abortion at any stage of development. You are saying a bunch of nonsense about how you feel republicans feel. It is nonsense, and knowing full well it is nonsense I am entertaining your theory about how people are against abortion so there are more people on earth to force religion on.

Those were your words. I have never heard that amount of nonsense come from a single statement in quite some time, so I would still like to know if this is actually what you think, and if so please expand on this theory.

I can understand that.



I have hesitant to say 'yes' because it is an angle that is not often explored, as most abortion debate tends to quickly deteriorate. The vast majority of abortions take place prior to any viability, but in such rare instances where there's a desire for abortion > 21 weeks gestation that doesn't have medical reasons, I do think it is an option that best-preserves the rights of each being. The individual would no longer be pregnant, per their bodily autonomy, and the fetus would go on to continue experiencing life.

You shouldn't respond to him at all. You can't have a constructive discussion with him.