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Jun 12 2023 06:00pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 12 2023 04:47pm)
He’s polling only behind Biden on dem side. He’s not a lunatic and has pretty sound policies on many things, I don’t agree with plenty but I’d take him over Bidens shadow government or Trump. Lol at your comment about Yang you Biden supporters are hilarious, just going around parroting shallow msm talking points with no substance.


you say that like Yang isnt a grifter; no positions he held were actually his own...he parroted the best of Bernie and Warren's ideas because they were popular. you want to talk about lack of substance? look no further than Yang, dude was an empty shell lol.
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you say that like Yang isnt a grifter; no positions he held were actually his own...he parroted the best of Bernie and Warren's ideas because they were popular. you want to talk about lack of substance? look no further than Yang, dude was an empty shell lol.


Lol that’s pretty much all candidates with slight variance or emphasis on things they care more about. I mean pretty much every Democrat doesn’t care about a balanced budget and wants to generally raise taxes, raise entitlements, or at the very least not touch them, do you think they are ‘copycats’ or simply follow the orthodox democratic platform? Yang wasn’t much different.
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Jun 12 2023 06:09pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 12 2023 05:00pm)
I listened him articulate his position on vaccines in the interview I linked. There’s elements of what he says that I don’t think are completely true or correct and he may be reaching in coming to his conclusions but tbh a fair amount of things that were pushed about the covid vaccines turned out to be untrue. So to label him as some tin foiler is not fair.

His opponents want to make him about a single issue (the vaccines) and discard 95% of the other things he has to say. It’s a good tactic by the cowardly establishment democrats that fear him but people still can listen and resonate with some of his other issues takes. That’s why he has a growing presence on the democrats side.


So you think the fairest representation of what he has done in regards to vaccines is his own account of it?

What was untrue about the covid vaccines? The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't do much to prevent the spread of covid. Otherwise it's incredibly effective.

Well, the anti-vax stuff is what he's most famous for, besides his name. So it's legit to focus on it.
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Lol that’s pretty much all candidates with slight variance or emphasis on things they care more about. I mean pretty much every Democrat doesn’t care about a balanced budget and wants to generally raise taxes, raise entitlements, or at the very least not touch them, do you think they are ‘copycats’ or simply follow the orthodox democratic platform? Yang wasn’t much different.


the difference is, most Democrats have been in office for ages and are fairly consistent...aside from younger progressives who obviously hold very different beliefs than say the Feinstein's or Pelosi's, who are very much corporate stooges.
there is far more nuance in beliefs on the left side than there is on the right. the hogs fell in lock-step under Trump, anyone that veered off-course was punished
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So you think the fairest representation of what he has done in regards to vaccines is his own account of it?

What was untrue about the covid vaccines? The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't do much to prevent the spread of covid. Otherwise it's incredibly effective.

Well, the anti-vax stuff is what he's most famous for, besides his name. So it's legit to focus on it.


I rather listen to a man defend himself and his views rather than takes from media personalities that are looking to constantly frame POV's based on some agenda.

He is generally correct in saying the lockdowns didn't work and the lockdowns are a direct preceding event that has led to an explosion in our debt with inflation souring to 40 year highs. He's also right to point out how the authorities were very quick to discard proven medicines like Ivermectin with garbage propaganda like CNN running that Joe Rogan an immensely rich and knowledgeable person would be taking horse dewormer against Covid. He's also correct in saying there is a huge conflict of interest with companies like Moderna and Pfizer slated to make billions with pushing vaccine mandates.

I do think he tends to reach at some points, for example when he talked about how there was an explosion in autism in the late 80s when vaccines became more common but like I said, i don't focus on the 5% but the other 95%.

It's a legit focus, just like many of his other takes which are minimized while this one is often shouted through a megaphone, most of the time not even caring to frame it in the same way he intended.

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I rather listen to a man defend himself and his views rather than takes from media personalities that are looking to constantly frame POV's based on some agenda.

He is generally correct in saying the lockdowns didn't work and the lockdowns are a direct preceding event that has led to an explosion in our debt with inflation souring to 40 year highs. He's also right to point out how the authorities were very quick to discard proven medicines like Ivermectin with garbage propaganda like CNN running that Joe Rogan an immensely rich and knowledgeable person would be taking horse dewormer against Covid. He's also correct in saying there is a huge conflict of interest with companies like Moderna and Pfizer slated to make billions with pushing vaccine mandates.

I do think he tends to reach at some points, for example when he talked about how there was an explosion in autism in the late 80s when vaccines became more common but like I said, i don't focus on the 5% but the other 95%.

It's a legit focus, just like many of his other takes which are minimized while this one is often shouted through a megaphone, most of the time not even caring to frame it in the same way he intended.


bro you know the theory of vaccines causing autism started with a meth and heroine using porn star right
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This is what it looks like when I talk in my RFK Jr voice


purely his voice alone impedes him from presidency
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Quote (IceMage @ Jun 12 2023 07:09pm)
So you think the fairest representation of what he has done in regards to vaccines is his own account of it?

What was untrue about the covid vaccines? The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't do much to prevent the spread of covid. Otherwise it's incredibly effective.

Well, the anti-vax stuff is what he's most famous for, besides his name. So it's legit to focus on it.


The true argument was that vaccines would heavily mitigate the deadly impacts of covid. The false claims were that it was necessary for children, that it would prevent the spread, that it would prevent mutation of new variants, that the first crest would be such a tidal wave of death it justified sending sick patients to senior homes in places like NYC while field hospitals went empty, and that lockdowns would work and that the laws were being enforced fairly (like unvaccinated mobs literally burning down a city while the AG sued small rural bars for staying open). And of course Joe Bidens lie on the campaign that he wouldnt mandate vaccines. And the early lie that it wasnt human transmissible at all (lmao) didn't come from China, didn't come from Wuhan, had no possible way it came from a lab.

Maybe Osterholm got it mostly right, but Fauci has been no more accurate than RFK Jr. They can both be wrong about vaccines, I think Fauci did more damage.

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usual suspects in here who worship and support the current administration which has $6B “accounting errors” (???) which goes to funding more war rallying to discredit any potential human being going against the sniffer in the primary.

say what you will about the Kennedys but most of them (except the swimmer Ted) wanted good for America

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