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May 16 2023 11:30pm
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I mean if you ignore the numerous and sustained contacts his team had with Russian intelligence assets, then no there's no proof. There could be tape of Trump sucking Putin off and thanking him for his help in 2016 and it wouldn't convince the cult at this point.


Are you referring to Page?
Doing business in russia before the campaign started is not the same thing as having sustained contact with russian intel assets.
It is clearly noted that he was once approached by a russian intelligence asset in a recruitment attempt that went nowhere and Page did nothing to form a relationship with or sustain contact with that person. EDIT: three persons, not one

It's looking like the person most closely associated with russian intelligence in this entire story was Igor Danchenko, who was the source for Christopher Steele, who's payment was funneled from the clinton campaign to perkins coi, through fusion gps.
The fbi offered one million dollars for his information to be corroborated and it could not be.

If anyone was interfering in an election with help of russian intel, it was the clinton campaign



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Are you referring to Page?
Doing business in russia before the campaign started is not the same thing as having sustained contact with russian intel assets.


You could go with Carter page, George Papadapoulous, Michael Flynn, Donald trump Jr, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Felix Sater, and more. Thats just off the top of my head, if you don't trust muller pull up the bipartisan senate report written by a republican senate.
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You could go with Carter page, George Papadapoulous, Michael Flynn, Donald trump Jr, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Felix Sater, and more. Thats just off the top of my head, if you don't trust muller pull up the bipartisan senate report written by a republican senate.


Provide evidence of illegal acts or collusion.
Are you talking about normal communications between the trump team and russian officials leading up to governmental transition of the executive office? EDIT: changed word "branch" to "office"


What do you think about mrs. clinton's connection to igor danchenko?

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Provide evidence of illegal acts or collusion.
Are you talking about normal communications between the trump team and russian officials leading up to governmental transition of the executive office? EDIT: changed word "branch" to "office"


What do you think about mrs. clinton's connection to igor danchenko?


Provide evidence of illegal acts by Clinton and the clinton campaign then. There's far more evidence of criminality by the Trump campaign than clinton in these two reports. Muller found 10 instances that would be considered criminal obstruction by Trump and prosecuted were he not the president at the time.
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Provide evidence of illegal acts by Clinton and the clinton campaign then. There's far more evidence of criminality by the Trump campaign than clinton in these two reports. Muller found 10 instances that would be considered criminal obstruction by Trump and prosecuted were he not the president at the time.


The clinton campaign was fined over one hundred thousand dollars for not classifying opposition research by Steele as such. The information they paid for, lied about, and knew was false, was lanudered to the fib and media who pointed at each other as having the same information. That formed a basis for the fbi to get fisa warrants to surveil the trump campaign.

Getting caught up in red tape during a multi year investigation is difficult to avoid when the prosecution is weaponized. If someone misspeaks, misremembers or gives slightly different information even once they get slapped with charges such as lying to the fbi, obstruction, etc.
Being hit with one of those charges is not even close to evidence of collusion.

What do you think about mrs. clinton's connection to igor danchenko and the fine her campaign received from the FEC for their actions?
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The clinton campaign was fined over one hundred thousand dollars for not classifying opposition research by Steele as such. The information they paid for, lied about, and knew was false, was lanudered to the fib and media who pointed at each other as having the same information. That formed a basis for the fbi to get fisa warrants to surveil the trump campaign.

Getting caught up in red tape during a multi year investigation is difficult to avoid when the prosecution is weaponized. If someone misspeaks, misremembers or gives slightly different information even once they get slapped with charges such as lying to the fbi, obstruction, etc.
Being hit with one of those charges is not even close to evidence of collusion.

What do you think about mrs. clinton's connection to igor danchenko and the fine her campaign received from the FEC for their actions?


Wow a tiny FEC fine over misclassification of oppo research. You really fuckin got clinton now.

The FBI investigation was not predicated on the Steele report as much as republican wishcasting tries to make it so. Even Durham admits it. It's literally the first sentence of the image you keep posting.



It would do you well to read your own sources instead of parroting talking points from twitter.

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Wow a tiny FEC fine over misclassification of oppo research. You really fuckin got clinton now.

The FBI investigation was not predicated on the Steele report as much as republican wishcasting tries to make it so. Even Durham admits it. It's literally the first sentence of the image you keep posting.


Those are two different images that happen to contain the same paragraph as the first portion of text. Did you read the one on page 3 of this thread or the one related to russian intel on this page?
If you thought they were the same image it appears not.

Yes crossfire hurricane was started after receipt of unverified, unvetted, uninvestigated information "from australia," in an action where the fbi did not review it's own intel databases, did not collect or examine info from other u.s. intel agencies, did not interview witnesses essential to understanding the info,
and did not use any of their standard tools in evaluating raw intel.
In otherwords, they entirely broke protocol because they were biased against a political candidate.

The real investigative powers of crossfire hurricane came from fisa warrants issued because of the clinton campaigns bunk "research" that was designed to vilify trump by making it appear he was connected to putin.

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/quote "It would do you well to read your own sources instead of parroting talking points from twitter."

twitter? i dont use it and why would i? im reading the document and underlining relevant portions for people to see more clearly.

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Yes crossfire hurricane was started after receipt of unverified, unvetted, uninvestigated information "from australia," in an action where the fbi did not review it's own intel databases, did not collect or examine info from other u.s. intel agencies, did not interview witnesses essential to understanding the info,
and did not use any of their standard tools in evaluating raw intel.
In otherwords, they entirely broke protocol because they were biased against a political candidate.


So the opening of Crossfire hurricane had nothing to do with the Clinton Campaign? Glad we cleared it up. Durham clears clinton yet again.
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So the opening of Crossfire hurricane had nothing to do with the Clinton Campaign? Glad we cleared it up. Durham clears clinton yet again.


The fisa warrants to surveil and spy on the trump campaign were awarded explicitly due to information created by the clinton campaign.
The fbi knew that information was faulty and that it was produced by the clinton campaign.
The fbi withheld exonerating evidence from the fisa court before the warrants were awarded, and after obtaining the warrants in order to keep the investigation open.

It doesnt matter who threw the first stone to initiate the thing, and we have exceedingly little information about. For all we know it was another paid confidential human source.
A pile on of producing a hurricane of faulty information for political gain by both a political candidate, her campaign and the fbi is not waved away by the fbi having started early stages of an investigation without any credible info.
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The fisa warrants to surveil and spy on the trump campaign were awarded explicitly due to information created by the clinton campaign.
The fbi knew that information was faulty and that it was produced by the clinton campaign.
The fbi withheld exonerating evidence from the fisa court before the warrants were awarded, and after obtaining the warrants in order to keep the investigation open.

It doesnt matter who threw the first stone to initiate the thing, and we have exceedingly little information about. For all we know it was another paid confidential human source.
A pile on of producing a hurricane of faulty information for political gain by both a political candidate, her campaign and the fbi is not waved away by the fbi having started early stages of an investigation without any credible info.


The FISA warrants were issue before the FBI received the Steele dossier. Try again.
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