"all of this info is easily google-able"

...

"what do you even want me to google"


i thought i was specific enough, but it was in a lot of posts strung together, so to be specific.

NHS current policy (which is really the earlier 2010s model of transition policy as i read it) VS late 2010s-2020s transition policy, as they relate to suicide, homelessness, and drug use rates of trans people.

because, as i said hyperbolically:



this NHS change reads to me like making people feel better about who they are until they enter the real world and are less prepared for a society that sees them as an insect that need to squash. i dont think pumping them full of blockers and hormones with 3x a week counseling sessions from age 5 to age 10 with a trans specific counselor is going to put a dent in the actual problems trans people face in society. does that mean i'm against these practices inherently? no, i just dont think they're effective against the worst outcomes.


if we want to truly help trans people not kill themselves we should be coaching them to never enter sports, wear gender neutral clothing, choose a gender neutral name, and avoid discussing themselves at all. people will treat them better and they'll avoid a lot of harassment by trying to toe the middle line. that's of course not going to happen, even suggesting that little Charlotte goes to school in anything but a pink tutu dress is transphobic to the point of cancellation. but pragmatism is never sexy.

But you said its a non-issue?

Maybe not jsp banter, but there definitely exists a person saying identical stuff on twitter and that breaks the headlines and boom, trans agenda further perpetuated.

We mustnt raise our kids to be utterly naive. They need to see some of the realities of life to grow into strong citizens. We dont want a generation of anxious pansies who are scared of a transgender person. Remeber the saying about weak men. You dont want those.

The first thing a therapist will tell you is if doing something makes you unsafe, don't do that thing. Nobody is out there saying "transition even though your dad says he wants to kill trans people".

Specifically about the NHS guidelines

This article comes up when searching "Gender affirming care suicide trans"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2021/12/14/gender-affirming-care-linked-to-less-depression-lower-suicide-risk-for-trans-youth/?sh=42e0d9ad5d25

Which links to this paper

https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/fulltext

Which says

"Findings support a relationship between access to GAHT and lower rates of depression and suicidality among transgender and nonbinary youth."

because affirming care has been shown six ways to sunday that it reduces suicidality.

Also found this

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35212746/

and this

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423


Seriously it's difficult to not find evidence that gender-affirming care reduces suicidality because of how overwhelming the evidence is at this point.



You are making claims like the bolded which are directly contradicted by ALL THE EVIDENCE becuase you haven't taken any time to look into it before forming a strong prescriptive opinion on the matter.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Apr 17 2023 11:48am

rowling is the perfect example how the left wokie cult works

for years she was a hero as the single mom that became rich and successful, now she is a villain for sticking with biological facts

The existence of trans people is a non-issue as there are only 10 total in the existence of man kind. Fax.

Real issue is media. The media promoting this crap needs to be fought vocally and through our $. The only reason this bullshit has gotten so far is because everyone has been too scared to say anything. The argument that mentioning it provokes more media is insane.
The line has to be drawn somewhere, and you don't ever get it if you don't show them that they're crossing it.

This post was edited by UmadLoL on Apr 17 2023 12:25pm

But thats just watchdog journalism. If you spew vitriolic shit, why act surprised when media wants to cover it? Thats just childish, wanting to say and do stuff without consequences. If youre scared from being ostracized after spewing hostile shit, youre either 1) too weak and a mere loudmouth 2) dont have an adequately formulated opinion that withstands criticism.

thats just you speaking for me lol. i have an opinion and im ready and willing to change it when new evidence presents itself, as i may do when i read those links.

i'd ask how often you change your mind, but why would i when ive seen you rigidly hold every opinion you have for 10 or so years lol. meanwhile you've watched my stances shift, if you've paid attention, but project onto me while reading all of my statements literally and in the worst way you can.

the underlying message of my belief is that society is so anti-trans that our care methods can't have much effect on the worst outcomes, a very liberal idea. and you read it and say im just regurgitating conservative talking points for politically motivated reasons. im sure in a day or so i'll get a quote reply of THIS post saying im to pro-trans.

that's what being a centrist really is, most posts i make i get people from both sides saying im a mouthpiece for the other, that's how i know im doing things right.

lmao 360 no-scoped those woman-hating bigoted thug drains on the taxpayer. thor and fender reallie are a pair of flawed chatgpt reposters. great post my friend!

Ah yes. You don't have a strong opinion on the subject, but you'll make firm statements like

"If we want to truly help trans people not kill themselves we should be coaching them to never enter sports, wear gender neutral clothing, choose a gender neutral name, and avoid discussing themselves at all."

See, when people don't actually have strong opinions they don't tend to make firm affirmative testable statements like you have this entire time. Poor me for reading those unambiguous statements made in support of an argument as you believing them.

Jupe is one my favs here.